Is it considered Nivul Peh if one writes an inappropriate phrase? (For example, if one is writing a book with fictional dialogue, or a dictionary of slang terms.)
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1Why not just ask simpler - Is it nivul peh to ask a Rov if the phrase is nivul peh?– ertert3terteCommented Dec 12, 2013 at 4:12
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That's a different question. I guess I want to know whether nivul peh in writing is nivul peh. Perhaps this should be split into two questions.– user3318Commented Dec 12, 2013 at 4:15
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@Malper, I think a better test case that would address that concern is whether one must refrain from writing out such terms when there is a legitimate need for transcribing actual conversations where they are used.– YirmeyahuCommented Dec 12, 2013 at 16:27
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@Yirmeyahu Good point. I'll split this into two questions.– user3318Commented Dec 12, 2013 at 16:28
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I would assume it does,the issur is to even listen to it.The issur seems to come from the demoralization that nivul peh causes,however speech in Judaism is very powerful,so could be a different level,see the discussion of speaking or writing Torah to be yotzai Talmud Torah– samCommented Dec 12, 2013 at 17:24
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When it comes to relationships the Sefarim do not call the body parts by their name. It is called אותו מקום. This would indicate to me that it is inappropriate to write Nivul Pe. I would say that it can cause one to read it out loud and say it.
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That's due to considerations of lashon n'kiya (i.e. using particularly refined language). Nivul peh is more extreme than using language that is simply not lashon n'kiya.– FredCommented Dec 13, 2013 at 4:20
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@Fred Since nivul peh is more extreme than using language that is simply not lashon n'kiya and Chazal were careful to use lashon n'kiya, it follows kal vochomer that it is inappropriate to write Nivul Pe. Commented Jan 11, 2014 at 19:05
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Is it nivul peh to refer (in speech) to the body parts by their respective "normal" names?– YehoshuaCommented Jan 11, 2014 at 19:19
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@AvrohomYitzchok I didn't say it was appropriate, but it might be on the same level as writing non-lashon n'kiya, rather than equivalent to speaking nivul peh.– FredCommented Feb 16, 2014 at 23:09