Can you stop benching (saying the grace after a meal) after al-yichasiranu (the end of the fourth blessing of the grace)?


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The mechaber brings "harahaman"s as an optional addition to Bircas HaMazone. Today the general Ashkenazic Minhag is to say it all unless you have one of the following two minhagim:

  1. The GRA holds that on Shabbos one should stop before the personal requests (yifarnisanu bchavod).
  2. In Slobodka Yeshivah (hence in Chaim Berlin) the custom was to stop at Al Yihasireinu so as to gain a few more minutes for learning Torah. Those who still have this custom either descend from those who learned/taught there or picked it up in Yeshivah.
  • Students of Rabbi Chait's Yeshiva stop at the al yechasireinu on Shabbos, for the reason mentioned above. Not being one, I'm not sure what they do the rest of the week.
    – Ariel
    Jun 11, 2010 at 15:52
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    Which Rabbi Chait? And why at "Al Yihasireinu" if the first few Harahamans are not personal requests?
    – Yahu
    Jun 14, 2010 at 20:12
  • I know the GR"A held you can't say them on Shabbath, but I also heard it said that he didn't say them at all, and for the reason mentioned in 2. Could this be true, or was my source confused about where that tradition originated?
    – Seth J
    Jul 20, 2012 at 2:44

I believe there is also a source [help please!] that says, while on your employer's time, you should only say the first four berachot. this could be extended to other situations where time or kavana are limited.

  • See Shulchan Aruch OC Siman 191
    – Double AA
    Dec 20, 2011 at 0:15

It depends on your minhag. Some do, some don't.

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    cHAIM bERLINERS Apr 15, 2010 at 2:53
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    I guess this about as a good an answer as the question was.
    – Seth J
    Jul 20, 2012 at 2:40

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