Many Rabbis wear a long Black Coat called a frock as rabbinic garb. Since it is a rabbinical garb is it permitted for someone who is not a rabbi to wear it? is it haughty to do so?
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2Funny you asked this, as I just saw a fellow who is not a Rabbi and he recently put one on.– Gershon GoldCommented Jun 25, 2015 at 16:20
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1You just need to support any claim as best you can. If it's not controversial, it should be very easy to support. The rabbi at my local shul, for instance, does not wear a frock.– Double AA ♦Commented Jun 25, 2015 at 16:32
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3so he chose not to (assuming he is worthy, i have no idea what your religious affiliation is), but please dont argue with me that it is a rabbinical thing, it is a rabbinacal thing to give a sermon, but not all rabbis do. but dont tell me a sermon isnt rabbinical.– user9478Commented Jun 25, 2015 at 16:34
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1I'm making a counter-argument. Why do you think a frock is specifically Rabbinical garb to the point that non-Rabbi should be prohibited from wearing it? Some Hassidic rabbis wear shtreimelach, white socks and long black robes. Many Hassidim who are not rabbis do likewise. I'm not a Hassid, but am I prohibited from dressing like one if I wish?– DanFCommented Jun 25, 2015 at 16:52
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1@MOKAY I'm just asking you to support your claims. Not that complicated.– Double AA ♦Commented Jun 25, 2015 at 19:52
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There are many communities in which the custom is to start wearing this either from bar mitzvah or from being married. That being the case in such a community it would have nothing to do with being a rabbi. If one were to attach to it a special significance of only being for Rabbis as a specific custom perhaps you could make that case but I see no advantage in doing so
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In the Litvisch welt, it is customary for roshei yeshiva to wear frock coats (Yiddish: kapote). Commented Mar 27, 2016 at 20:09
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It's a thing in some yeshivot. FWIW, the mesader kiddushin at my cousin's (Modern) Orthodox wedding in Israel over the summer wore typical r"y garb (kapote and Homburg hat) as he (R' Landau) is (or was) the head of the kiddushin bureau in the Tel Aviv rabbanut. A further aside, I've heard that when R' Pam didn't wear a frock coat on becoming an r"y at Torah Vodaas, it was somewhat controversial. Commented Mar 28, 2016 at 1:17
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Interesting side note there are many who regularly wear a kappota on shabbos/yontiff who will wear a coat over top of it when walking outside so as not to show it off– DudeCommented Apr 12, 2016 at 14:48
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@Noach MiFrankfurt ,Rav Dovid Feinstein does not wear a frock as well– samCommented Jun 29, 2018 at 19:14
The Sefer Shulchan Aruch Hamiddot says that since a frock traditionally (especially in Litvish - Lithuanian) circles is a special Rabbinic garb. If someone who is not qualified, due to lack of scholarship or lack of position of authority chooses to wear one is exhibiting the behavior of Gaava - haughtiness.
answered Dec 28, 2016 at 8:25
