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I take it from the Torah that G'd commanded mankind to procreate and that pre-marital sex is forbidden and all that, But what happens with people who either choose to remain unmarried or otherwise virgin for their whole lives or the opportunity just never presented to them to marry or have children when they die? What do we learn from the Kabbalah of these people after they reincarnate?? what would their next life be like?

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  • There are people who never married in the Talmud and it is regarded as a bad thing. Some say that instead of killing her, Yiftach had his daughter locked away so she did not marry for her entire life. Shoftim 11:40 shows that the daughters of Israel mourned her situation. Commented Oct 12, 2020 at 2:57
  • @sabbahillel Even according to the opinions that Yiftach's daughter was killed, the verses are clear that they mourned her being a virgin at death.
    – N.T.
    Commented Nov 11, 2020 at 11:27
  • Btw it's not just premarital sex but also postmarital sex. Seemingly extramarital sex is the better way to describe it.
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 11, 2021 at 0:43
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    I don't think there's a concept of male virginity in Judaism. You should probably ask about celibacy.
    – shmosel
    Commented Aug 21 at 20:50
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    @shmosel I don't know what virginity has got to do with it at all. It's a question really about marriage and procreation, both of which can be violated by non-virgins. I've edited the title (also, because "dying a virgin" is a homophonic sentence that could be read as colouring them with dye!)
    – Rabbi Kaii
    Commented Aug 22 at 13:17

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The book "Piety and Fanaticism: Rabbinic Criticism of Religious Stringency" by Sara Epstein Weinstein has entire section 3. The Ascetic Woman (Ishah Perushah) p.107 - 141.

The case is brought in Mishnah Sotah 3:4, where the "ascetic woman" is a sexually abstinent woman. Rabbi Yehoshua says: A woman desires to receive the amount of a kav of food and a sexual relationship [tiflut] rather than to receive nine kav of food and abstinence. He would say: A foolish man of piety, and a conniving wicked person, and an abstinent woman [perusha], and those who injure themselves out of false abstinence; all these are people who erode the world.

The case is discussed in the baraisa. Talmud Bavli Sotah 22a gives an additional example of a praying virgin: The Sages taught: A maiden who prays constantly, and a neighborly [shovavit] widow who constantly visits her neighbors, and a child whose months of gestation were not completed, all these are people who erode the world.

Additionally, Talmud Yerushalmi Sotah 3:4: *They added to these (To the list of the destroyers of the world) a fasting virgin (vs. the Babli (22a): A praying virgin), a neighborly widow, ... A fasting virgin; she pretends to have lost her hymen by fasting (or fasting causes her lose her virginity; another comment: but in reality she slept around)... A neighborly widow, by running around (The Geniza ms. probably has another reading which, however, is not readable. The translation follows Arukh, s. v. חגל. she spreads bad reputations.)

These descriptions complete the the portrait of an ascetic woman, condemned by tannaim as a destroyer of the world. The mishna wording of isha suggests that the ascetic woman may have been married but separated from her husband. The two baraisos add a virgin and a widow as further examples of the ascetic women. All different types of women are thus included in the tannaic condemnation of the female ascetic - a married woman, an unmarried virgin, and a widow.

There is a further discussion in the book of various amoraic sources which relate extra piety as a cover for witchcraft, etc. It appears though, the criticism is directed towards women who intentionally choose self-imposed religious stringency because their behavior destroys the world: it leads to sin and destruction of families.

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I can't speak for Kabbalah. But otherwise, I don't think there's anything specific about virginity per se.

Talmud Chagiga 14b says Ben Azai got too close to knowing God for a mortal, and therefore died. The verse remarks about him: when the pious die, it's costly to God. Rashi comments -- that he died as a young man.

So perhaps "oh what a shame", but that's about it.

Rabbi Moshe Feinstein was asked about not naming after a relative who suffered from particular poor fate; he wrote that someone who had children and then died of natural causes in their 50s is not, in the overall scheme of things, considered to be "an ill-fated relative." Of course does that mean that someone who lived to 110 and never married or had kids was "ill-fated?" I doubt it, but somehow having kids seems to weigh in to some degree.

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  • The Gemara in sotah, in one answer, says Ben Azai was a divorcé not a virgin
    – Double AA
    Commented Apr 11, 2021 at 0:42
  • @DoubleAA thanks! The first of three answers on 4b, right? And that would indicate he was explicitly a non-virgin. IIRC it's in Kesubos that says R' Akiva offered a massive dowry when Ben Azzai married his daughter, Tosfos goes with the "died a virgin" approach and suggests he got betrothed but then called it off from there. But in hachi nami, thank you.
    – Shalom
    Commented Apr 11, 2021 at 2:22

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