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I've been going over the halakhoth for baking matzah, and even though I hear from almost every Rabbi I've asked that the entire process must be done in under 18 minutes, I can't find any evidence for this claim in any halakhic works. And this notion isn't coming from just my local Rabbeim, this idea appears in books intended for mass audiences, online Orthodox Rabbi Responsa, and e-mails from the OU, published videos from matzah bakeries, etc. Here is a photo of a Pesach guide from my local Beith Din:

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But when looking in all the major codes of halachah, they are all in agreement that the eighteen minutes refers to something completely different. All the major halakhic works use 18 minutes in reference to leaving the wet dough unattended.

According to the Mishneh Torah, one can knead the dough the entire day and it will never become chametz.

Rambam's Mishneh Torah - Chametz U'Matzah - Chapter Five

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As long as a person is busy with the dough, even for the entire day, it will not become chametz. If he lifts up his hand and allows the dough to rest so that [it rises to the extent that] a noise will resound when a person claps it with his hand, it has already become chametz and must be burned immediately. If a noise does not resound and the dough has lain at rest for the time it takes a man to walk a mil, it has become chametz and must be burned immediately.

Source: http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/937304/jewish/Chametz-UMatzah-Chapter-Five.htm

This is also the opinion of Yosef Karo and the Rema in the Shulchan Arukh

סעיף ב - לא יניחו העסה בלא עסק ואפלו רגע אחד. וכל זמן שמתעסקים בו, אפלו כל היום אינו מחמיץ. ואם הניחו בלא עסק שעור מיל, הוי חמץ. ושעור מיל הוי רביעית שעה וחלק מעשרים מן השעה. הגה: ויש להחמיר למהר בענין עשית המצות, כי יש לחש שהשהיות יצטרפו לשעור מיל או שיהיה במקום חם שממהר להחמיץ (הגהות מיימוני פרק ה' ומרדכי פרק אלו עוברין) ואחר שנתעסקו בבצק ונתחמם בידים אם יניחוהו בלא עסק מיד יחמיץ

Siman 459:2 - The dough should not be left idle for even a moment. As long as it is being used, even the whole day, it will not rise. If it is left idle for the time that it takes to walk a mil, it is hametz. A mil is a quarter of an hour plus a twentieth of an hour. Rem"a: One should be stringent to hurry when making matzos, because there is concern that the waitings will aggregate to a mil or that one will be in a warm place where rising happens quicker. After dealing with the dough and warming it with your hands, if it is left idle, it will rise immediately.

Source: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Shulchan_Aruch/Orach_Chaim/459

The Mishnah Berurah doesn't mention anyone who argues with these, so I assume he agrees. But the Mishnah Berurah does go on to say that "it becomes chametz immediately" doesn't mean immediately but rather "a short time" and it shouldn't be left unattended for even one moment lechatchila, but should be rolled out and immediately put in the oven.

מיד יחמיץ - ולפי זה צריך ליזהר מאד לאחר שערכו ורידדו המצה ומניחים אותה לפני המנקר שינקר אותה מיד וגם אחר הניקור יראו לרדותה תיכף לתנור כיון דלאחר שנתעסקו בה מחמצת מיד שמסלקין את הידים ממנו והעולם אין נזהרין בזה כ"כ ואפשר דמיד דקאמר המחבר לאו דוקא אלא ר"ל שיעור מועט ומ"מ לכתחלה בודאי יש ליזהר מלהניחה כך אפילו רגע אחד אם אפשר וכנ"ל בראש הסעיף ועיין מ"ש בביאור הלכה:

Source: https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%9E%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%94_%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%94_%D7%A2%D7%9C_%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%97_%D7%97%D7%99%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%AA%D7%A0%D7%98#.D7.A1.D7.A2.D7.99.D7.A3_.D7.91

Consistent with these sources, in this Q&A, the OU refers to the 18 minutes as a limit to how long the mixture can be "left unattended."

In all of these works, the number of eighteen minutes ONLY refers to being left idle, and is NEVER used to convey an entire time in which the process needs to be completed. Even if you say that once the dough is warm it must be baked immediately after working with no idle time, you could still be kneading the dough for 3 hours, put it right in the oven, and still have kosher matzah.

So where does this notion (or possibly myth) of "must be finished baking within 18 minutes of flour contacting water" come from?

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    How about the Shulchan Arukh cited in this question who says "After dealing with the dough and warming it with your hands, if it is left idle, it will rise immediately" which seems to directly contradict your claim that "once you stop working the dough you have 18 minutes before it becomes chametz"? The Mishna Berura doesn't argue on that, nor does the Rama there.
    – Double AA
    Commented Jan 18, 2016 at 20:52
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    ובדורות הראשונים היו שוהין הרבה בלישה וגלגול עד שהיה נילוש יפה . עד שמקרוב זה עשרים שנה או יותר נתפשטה זהירות זו בישראל קדושים, למהר מאד מאד בלישה, ואין לשין יפה יפה, ולכן נמצא קמח מעט במצות של עיסה קשה, כנראה בחוש למדקדקים באמת hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=25074&st=&pgnum=487 Commented Jan 18, 2016 at 21:11
  • @ShmuelBrin Translate into English please, for the non Hebrew readers of the site
    – Aaron
    Commented Jan 18, 2016 at 21:14
  • Let us continue this discussion in chat.
    – Double AA
    Commented Jan 18, 2016 at 21:44
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    All a great discussion. Someone should perhaps mention that 18 minutes is itself a chumra, and many poskim agree that the correct time limit is 24 minutes or 22.5 minutes (see the Gr"a, on OH 459 for instance). I'm not saying anyone should be lenient.
    – MichoelR
    Commented Jan 17 at 14:17

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This does not include the time in the oven, but the notion that the entire process until the dough goes into the oven must be completed within 18 minutes is based on actual opinions on the books.

I found the sources cited below and got help in understanding and contextualizing them via the following contemporary English digests:

Although Talmud Bavli (Pesachim 48b) rules, as described in the question, that dough will never become chametz as long as one is working it, and although most rishonim rule, accordingly, that one may go ahead and work dough indefinitely, there are rishonim who disagree.

Ria"z, as seen in the Shiltei Giborim on Ri"f Pesachim 15b - note 1, cites the Talmud Yerushalmi as disagreeing with the Bavli and saying that if dough is continuously worked for more than 72 minutes, it becomes chametz. On this basis, he rules that once dough has been worked for this long, it is forbidden.

Ritv"a, in his commentary on Pesachim 48b, agrees with the other rishonim that dough does not become chametz while it's being worked, even if for a long time. However, his understanding of the Gemara there is that the Sages nonetheless forbade, lechatchila, working the dough for more than 18 minutes, as a heuristic to prevent people from accidentally producing and consuming chametz.

Although these are minority opinions, R' Melamed says that later posekim tend to rule in favor of following them, thanks to the special severity of the prohibition of chametz on Pesach. For example, Aruch Hashulchan, in Orach Chayim 459:7, cites the Ria"z and (implicitly) the Ritv"a and concludes

ועם כי אין הלכה כן, מכל מקום במצה ראוי להחמיר.‏

And even if the Halacha is not thus, even so, with matza, it's appropriate to be stringent.

(My translation.)

This line of reasoning supports adopting a policy of making sure to complete all pre-oven processing within 18 minutes. Even if dough that is processed for longer than this isn't yet technically chametz (according to any opinion in the rishonim, from what I can tell), it is off-limits as a matter of policy (or even Rabbinic law, according to Ritv"a), a status that is practically very similar to being technically chametz.

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  • i've upvoted your answer as being very informative. However, i would like the Yerushalmi sourced. Because my understanding of that Yerushalmi is that it says "if one leaves the dough unattended for the time it takes a man to walk 4 mil..." rather than the Bavli's one mil. Which means that the two are still in agreement, but that the Yerushalmi is either A: more lenient, or B: the Bavli is corrupted. So i don't know how the Ria"z says the Yerushalmi applies to working dough
    – Aaron
    Commented Apr 1, 2016 at 18:18
  • @Aaron, I don't have the citation in the Yerushalmi, but I linked to the Ria"z, so you can see his paraphrase. Where does your understanding come from, if not the primary source?
    – Isaac Moses
    Commented Apr 1, 2016 at 18:34
  • Bavli: Mishna: [Regarding] ‘deaf’ dough, if there is [a dough] similar to it which has become leaven, it is forbidden. Gemara: What if there is no [dough] similar to it?―Said R. Abbahu in the name of R. Shimon b. Lakish: [The period for dough to become chametz is] as long as it takes a man to walk from Migdal Nunaiya to Tiberias, which is a mil.' (Pesachim 3:3)
    – Aaron
    Commented Apr 1, 2016 at 18:48
  • Yerushalmi: "R. Abbahu in the name of R. Yochanan [says]: ['Deaf' dough is] dough that has become cold. If there was not another dough like it that became chametz, until when (how long does it take to become chametz)? R. Yaakov b. Acha [said in the name of] R. Ula of Caesarea in the name of R. Chanina: Until the amount of time it takes to travel four mils" (Pesachim 3:2)
    – Aaron
    Commented Apr 1, 2016 at 18:49
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    For more info on this topic, see the following essay: "Chametz in Eighteen Minutes? An Inquiry into the Correct Text of the Talmud" by Hakira: hakirah.org/Vol18Vaynman.pdf
    – Aaron
    Commented Apr 1, 2016 at 18:50

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