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Is the trash in my trash cans that must stay on my property during Passover still considered under my ownership?

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    Though almost every pesach handbook recommends dragging the bins to the curb before the zeman, I never understood it. Bitul should work on everything that a person would not accidentally eat during the zeman issur. I assume (hope) that should include the garbage bin. – YDK Mar 28 '11 at 21:27
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    In our little town, dragging the bins to the crub more then 24 hours before scheduled pick up gets you a fine. Normally our shul rents a big dumpster, but this year we will be leaving five days before the Chag, but after the trash pick up. I too would hope that Bitul works for what is left in the bins. – Ken Mar 28 '11 at 21:38
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    You can put some bleach on it and make it not edible to a dog. – Gershon Gold Mar 28 '11 at 22:30
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    @R"Ken, as this is for you a question of practical halacha, I strongly recommend you contact a reliable, orthodox rabbi and not rely on what you read on this site. – msh210 Mar 28 '11 at 23:00
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    In my experience, the garbage bins that are left out for pickup are usually considered the property of the local municipality. So the garbage is not even on your property! – Daniel Jun 26 '16 at 15:55
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See Shulchan Aruch Orach Chayim 445, 2.

קודם זמן איסורו - יכול להשליכו במקום שהעורבים מצויים שם. ואם מצאו אחר זמן איסורו שלא אכלוהו העורבים - אף על פי שמקום הפקר, לא יניחנו שם אלא יבערנו. ‏

Before the time of prohibition, one can discard the Chamets in a place in wich crows are widespread. If one found it after the starting time of the prohibition, although that this place is Hefker, one must not leave it, but he must destroy it.

Magen Avraham:

במקום שהעורבים וכו': ובהכי מיירי ההיא דחצר א"צ בדיק' (הג"מ) וא"כ מוכח דאיירי בחצר דידיה דאי בחצר של הפקר כגון ברחוב מאי בדיקה שייך דאפי' חמצו אם הפקירו קודם שש שרי כמ"ש הטור סי' תל"ז וב"י סי' תמ"ח בשם הירושל' וד"מ בשם א"ז דמה לי נתנו לעכו"ם או הפקירו אלא ע"כ לא מיירי במקום הפקר ומה שסיים אף על פי שמונח במקום הפקר מ"מ וכו' כלו' כיון שמונח בחצר א"כ הוא מופקר לכל הרוצה ליטול מ"מ כיון שמונח ברשותו חייב לבערו כדינו דהיינו בשריפה לר"י וכ"מ בהג"מ כמ"ש וז"ל הכ"מ ואותן בני אדם המשימין חמץ בצידי ר"ה בשעה ו' שלא כדין הם עושים דמשהגיע שעה ו' צריך לבערו מן העולם וכ"מ בהג"מ עכ"ל משמע דקודם שעה ו' שרי ועמ"ש סי' תל"ג וביורה דעה סי' קמ"ו: ‏

(Loose and summarized translation) When the Shulchan Aruch said an Hefker place, he meant that this is his own courtyard, available for whomever desires take it. But considering that this courtyard is his own property, he must destroy. If the courtyard is itself hefker, Magen Avraham added in name of Hagaot Maymoniot that people who leave Chamets on the edge of the street make mistake, after the sixth hour, they need to destroy it. Magen Avraham inferred from this sentence that if they leave the chamets on the edge of the street before th sixth hour, this is good enough.

Mishna Berura agrees from the halachic point of view with the Magen Avraham.

cans that must stay on my property during Passover still considered under my ownership?

--> Yes, you need to destroy it if you find it when it's already prohibited, because it's still in your property(1).


And Magen Avraham 446 sk1 says that you need to bless before the destruction, despite you already annulled this chamets

נ"ל דיברך על ביעור חמץ אף על פי שכבר ביטל מ"מ מברך על תקנת חכמים

Rashi Pesachim 6a:

ומיהו בבל יראה לא עבר דהא בטליה בליביה מאתמול כדאמרינן לקמן הבודק צריך שיבטל בלבו אלא משום שלא ישכח ויאכלנו צריך כפיית כלי:‏

Chashash perhaps he will eat it.

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The Mishnah Berurah (431:2) says that we don't rely on Bitul (that is, being mafkir the chameitz by saying kol chamira v'chamiya) because it's possible you didn't have the full intention of getting rid of it. When you throw out your chameitz, though, you definitely have the intention of getting rid of it. Thus, it's out of your reshus and there's no issue of bal yeira'eh.

  • I am not sure that this is sufficient to exempt you from destroy it. See my answer. – kouty Nov 23 '16 at 21:49
  • @koity I see what you're saying, but could you possibly edit your question with someone who explains why bitul is not enough? – DonielF Nov 27 '16 at 13:26
  • chumra derabanan, chashash achila or zechia. – kouty Nov 27 '16 at 14:49
  • @kouty Do you have a source for any of that? (And how is zechia even applicable?) – DonielF Nov 27 '16 at 15:28
  • See my edit with Rashi. – kouty Nov 27 '16 at 16:44

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