If when we pray for a person we pray for Ploni ben Plonis (e.g. Judah son of Leah or Dina daughter of Leah), what name do we use when praying for a ger (convert)?

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    The Gemara Berachot 34 says that you don't have to say the name of the person you are praying for. Actually Aderaba, I've seen in Likute Moharan that says that it is not good to say the name of a person who has Dinim over him (e.g. a sick person). Commented Jan 25, 2012 at 2:03
  • @HachamGabriel Was this opinion stated by anyone before the Likutei Maharan? Also when davening for anyone why not just say their "full name" like "John Smith" instead of John ben Rachel (etc...)
    – Yehoshua
    Commented Jul 17, 2015 at 4:26
  • Use any name you want. If God does not know who you are talking about we have bigger problems.
    – mevaqesh
    Commented Aug 9, 2016 at 18:38

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Ben or Bas Sarah (some add "Imeinu")

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    you could also pray like this if you are not sure of the person in question mother's name
    – Avraham
    Commented Feb 8, 2011 at 18:06
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    That is true Avraham and that deserves to be an independent mi.yodeya question.
    – Yahu
    Commented Feb 8, 2011 at 23:22
  • Is there any source for this?
    – Yehoshua
    Commented Jul 17, 2015 at 4:25

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