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It says (Rashi on Chumash, Sanhedrin ) "He miraculously struck exactly at Zimri’s male and her female parts "

I can understand how this could have killed Cozbi (by puncturing her vital inner organs) but it seems impossible that this would kill Zimri

How to understand this Rashi/Talmud realistically?

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While I might normally put these as comments, I think this can warrant an answer.

Firstly, it is possible that even with piercing just their sexual organs, they may have died from blood loss from the wounds that may have occurred.

Secondly, the Gemara (Sanhedrin 82b) which you quoted says the following:

א"ר יוחנן ששה נסים נעשו לו לפנחס אחד שהיה לו לזמרי לפרוש ולא פירש ואחד שהיה לו לדבר ולא דבר ואחד שכוון בזכרותו של איש ובנקבותה של אשה ואחד שלא נשמטו מן הרומח ואחד שבא מלאך והגביה את המשקוף ואחד שבא מלאך והשחית בעם

The bold parts loosely translated mean:

Rabbi Yochanan said: Six miracles were performed for Pinchas... ...And one that he was able to direct the spear into the male sexual organ and the female sexual organ, and one that they did not slip off of the spear. (my translation)

Thus, the fact that they were speared exactly at that location and died may be a possible interpretation of what the Gemara considers to be the miracle here.


Now I also found Targum Pseudo-Yonasan here, who suggests that they remained alive for quite a while, and only died after being paraded through the entire camp.

Edit: Hazoriz notes the Sifsei Chachamim/Mizrachi here and here, who say the same.

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My understanding of that comment was always that the spear went straight through the middle of both Zimri and Cozbi dorsoventrally. Along that path, it would pierce first Zimri's internal organs, then both of their sexual organs, then Cozbi's internal organs.

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  • I understand your effort, maybe if you specify what vital organ by zimri is being pierced i would understand
    – hazoriz
    Commented Jul 2, 2018 at 15:01
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    @hazoriz I'm not an anatomy or trauma expert, but maybe the spear killed Zimri (and Cozbi, for that matter) by cutting through a major blood vessel and causing rapid blood loss.
    – Isaac Moses
    Commented Jul 2, 2018 at 15:45
  • health.stackexchange.com/a/1281 (btw he also held him up on the spear, but on this you can answer that it was a mirical (graffic was not a problem in those days, the oposite it was to praise Hashem)
    – hazoriz
    Commented Jul 2, 2018 at 15:57
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Pinchas was a Kohen and he's prohibited from touching the dead.

One of the "miracles" (*In the Medrash rabbah & Tanchumah & Targum Yonasan Ben Uziel) listed was that they didn't die immediately not to let him become impure. Therefore as Pinchas was walking around with those two on the spear - we can conclude they bled out, but not before he put it down!

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