Is Passover lamb (paschal or pesach feast) said to be atonement and not just commemorative of the original Passover sacrifice in Egypt?
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hebrewbooks.org/… etzion.org.il/he/… yutorah.org/lectures/lecture.cfm/839759/rabbi-dr-j-david-bleich/…– Double AA ♦Commented Nov 8, 2016 at 13:04
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1Why do you think it might be?– Monica CellioCommented Nov 8, 2016 at 15:56
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if this section of talmud refers only to passover then it is full of "atonement" references; may be you can give an overview after reading whole juchre.org/talmud/pesachim/pesachim4.htm#89a @MonicaCellio– Michael16Commented Nov 8, 2016 at 17:03
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The word kipper here is not linked to atonement of sin @Michael16– koutyCommented Nov 8, 2016 at 18:05
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R. Menashe Klein authored an entire resopnsum on this topic (Mishneh Halakhot vol. XV: 150). He presents it as a matter of dispute with Levush (OH 468:1) and others, being of the opinion that it does atone. Others, however, such as the Tifferet Yisrael (Yakhin to Pesahim 4:5:24) write explicitly that the offering is not for atonement.
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I searched in Rambam hilchot Korban Pessach and if I don't miss something, no Kappara (atonement) is mentioned.
Thanks to the answer of mevaqesh we can see here the Tif'eret Israel who is astonished by the Tosfot Yom Tov comparison between Pessach and taanit about Kappara. The astonishing of Tif'eret Israel is perhaps also due to the lack of sources.
But after an accurate lecture of Tosfot Yom Tov, he also not said that the Pessach is Kappara . He said a comparison between the sets: the set of korbanot and the set of taaniot (not a comparison between the two items Pessach and taanit). The major feature of the set of korbanot is Kappara and the set of taaniot also. So Pessach as an item of the set of korbanot which is mainly characterized by capara. So the name capara is linked to pessach by his specie.
But the Levush Hachur OC 468, 1 also found by @mevaqesh doesn't support this teruts. Anyway here It is probably right to answer that to make himself exempt from caret because bitul mitsvat asse of Korban Pessach is the called Kappara but not at the sense of taanit.
So as suggested by the lecture of Rambam (and Gemara and Tora ) Pessach is not a Korban Kappara and even the authors cited as thinking that it's Kappara don't really said that.
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1@kouty My issue wasn't that you would borrow sources from my answer; you did reference me, and that was enough. My issue was, that I felt that the core of your answer was an argument form ignorance, and a poor one at that. So this would be the equivalent of copying an entire answer, properly attributing it, then degrading it with a poor argument. However, its you business, and your answer. Its not such a big deal, after all.– mevaqeshCommented Nov 9, 2016 at 3:58
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I love my teruts for Tosfot Yom Tov. If you think that Tif'eret Israel has different sources it may be interesting. I searched in Gemara and is I don't miss somewhat the is no evidence of Kappara.– koutyCommented Nov 9, 2016 at 4:08
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@kouty tanit means fasting? we should assume all animal sacrifices are meant for atonement for Lev 17:11 rashi and Hertz rightly admits atonement is on basis of blood. So kapara shouldnt be limited to regular sacrifices and yom kippur but pesach is same as yom kippur. Commented Nov 11, 2016 at 5:40
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@Michael16 taanit is fasting right. The principle of blood for Kappara is known. But here the question is about a concrete issue– koutyCommented Nov 11, 2016 at 5:47