Does studying Jewish history count as Torah? For example, could one study it on Tish'a B'av or in an unclean place or before saying Birkas HaTorah?

It seems clear that the stories included in the Talmud would be considered Torah. But it's less obvious that a history book published by ArtScroll would.

Does it depend on whether the text includes halachic content as well? Does it matter who wrote/taught the history? If there's a lesson to be learned from it? If the history is about all Jews or only about some? (For example, what about biographies?)

Or maybe there's no distinction, and all history [is/is not] considered Torah.

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    – Double AA
    Commented Sep 19, 2014 at 18:09
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    I don't think it's clear that stories included in the Talmud are considered Torah - even if all of the words of the sages are worth studying, not everything worth studying is Torah. Related (mitzvah to study history): judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/40887/… Commented Sep 19, 2014 at 18:58
  • Rabbi Yehoshua Fishman shlita once told us that a Jewish history book was good reading material for Tisha B'Av. Commented Sep 19, 2014 at 20:21
  • Why would you believe it to be Torah? The stories quoted in Tanach and the Talmud are not recorded for historical effect but for moral messages.
    – LN6595
    Commented Mar 3, 2015 at 22:03
  • "Torah" isnt a technical term which can be universally defined. Rather, regarding different halachic issues, the parameter of "Torah" must be defined. Regarding study in a foul place, the issue is disrespecting torah. In a similar context Rambam (Hil. Talmud Torah 3:13) implies that "ki dvar hashem baza" regarding disrespecting Torah, includes (at the minimum) the written law, and Mishnayos. Study on tisha b'av is not necessarily parallel and may operate by its own rules depending on what "gladdens the heart" (which is forbidden on tisha b'av). Regarding this, Rama permits studying (cont.)
    – mevaqesh
    Commented Mar 20, 2015 at 0:25

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The pasuk in Devarim 32:7 states:

זְכֹר֙ יְמ֣וֹת עוֹלָ֔ם בִּ֖ינוּ שְׁנ֣וֹת דּוֹר־וָד֑וֹר שְׁאַ֤ל אָבִ֙יךָ֙ וְיַגֵּ֔דְךָ זְקֵנֶ֖יךָ וְיֹ֥אמְרוּ לָֽךְ׃

Remember the days of old, Consider the years of ages past; Ask your father, he will inform you, Your elders, they will tell you:

LazerA wrote a wonderful blogpost about this, translating a R' Elchonon Wasserman essay titled "Maamar Zechor Yemos Olam" (printed in Kovetz Maamarim and in also Kovetz Haaros):


R' Elchonon Wasserman teaches that if one engages in the study of history with the proper perspective and guidance, it is akin to studying Torah. The primary key to a proper understanding of history is the recognition that God conducts all the events of the world for the benefit of the Jewish people. Through the proper study of history, we can come to know the will of God in a manner akin to the study of the Torah itself.

Here's R' Elchonon Wasserman's essay with translation in its entirety (H/T again to LazerA):

"זכור ימות עולם בינו שנות דור ודור" (דברים לב:ז) ... נראה דפשוטו של מקרא קאי על כל הדורות ועל כל המעשים הנעשים בעולם. דמאחר ד"בכל הארץ משפטיו" (תהלים קה:ז) ומשפטי ה' הם לפי דיני התורה, וא"כ כמו שצריך להבין דברי התורה ולהעמיק בה, כן ג"כ צריך להתבונן בכל המאורעות הבאות לעולם ולמצוא יסודם עפ"י משפטי התורה. אבל אל יסמוך האדם על בינתו, כי דעתו קצרה מלהבין דעת עליון, אלא צריך לשמוע להמקובל אצלנו בתורה שבע"פ. וזהו שהוסיף הכתוב "שאל אביך ויגדך, זקניך ויאמרו לך." וכגון הסיפורים שנכתבו בכתבי הקדש א"א להבינם מהכתובים לבד כי אם על פי פירושי רז"ל.

"Remember the days of the world, understand the years from generation to generation" … The simple meaning of the verse applies to all generations and all the events that happen in the world. For, "His judgments are throughout the world" (Psalms 105:7), and the judgments of God are in accordance with the laws of the Torah. Therefore, just as we must understand the words of the Torah and delve into it, so too we must contemplate all the events that take place in the world and find their basis according to the judgments of the Torah. However, a person must not rely upon his own understanding, for his intellect is insufficient to understand the knowledge of the One Above; rather, it is necessary to listen to he who is recognized in the Oral Torah 2. This is the intent when the verse adds, "ask your father and he will recount to you, your elders and they will tell you." This is akin to the fact that it is impossible to understand the stories of the holy Scriptures from the texts alone, except with the commentaries of the Sages.

וכדי להבין דברי ימי עולם (וועלט געשיכטע) מסרה לנו התורה מפתח גדול, לידע את הציר אשר עליו תסוב ההנהגה העליונה בעולם, והוא בכתוב מיד, "בהנחל עליון גוים בהפרידו בני אדם יצב גבולות עמים למספר בני ישראל כי חלק ה' עמו יעקב חבל נחלתו," ופירושו כי מאחר שמובן מאליו כי כל היצורים נבראו לעשות רצון קונם, ומכל סוגי הנמצאים העיקר הוא המין האנושי, ומהמין הזה העיקר הוא עם ישראל שהם חלק ה' ועבדיו... ונמצא שתכלית כל הבריאה היא רק בשביל ישראל, וכמו שפירש"י (בראשית א:א) "בראשית — בשביל ישראל שנקראו ראשית." וא"כ גם המעשים הנעשים בעולם תכליתם רק בשביל ישראל. וזה מפורש בכתוב (צפניה ג:ו-ז) "הכרתי גוים נשמו פנותם החרבתי חוצותם... אמרתי אך תיראי אותי תקחי מוסר." ומזה למדנו שאין פורענות באה לעולם אלא בשביל ישראל (יבמות סג.). ולדוגמה, גבולות העמים והמדינות בשנים האחרונות שנקבעו אחרי המלחמה, צריך להבין ולזכור כי טרם שנכתבו בוורסייל כבר נכתבו ונחתמו בבי"ד של מעלה. ושמה עיקר השקפתם היא רק בשביל ישראל, לטובתם או לפורענותם להוכיחם, כמו שכתוב "הוי אשור שבט אפי" (ישעי' י:ה).

In order to understand world events, the Torah gave us an important key by which to know the axis upon which the Heavenly conduct of the world turns, and this is in the verses immediately following, “When the One Above divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, He set the boundaries of the peoples according to the number of the children of Israel. For His people is His portion, Jacob is the portion of His inheritance.” The explanation of this verse is as follows. It is self-evident that all creatures were created to serve the will of their Owner. From all the categories of existence, the primary is the human race, and from this race, the primary is the people of Israel, for they are the “portion” of God and they are His servants. … The purpose of creation is only for the sake of Israel, as Rashi 3 comments [on Genesis 1:1], "B’reshis – for the sake of Israel which is called reshis (first)." Therefore, everything that happens in the world is only for the sake of Israel. This is explicit in Scripture (Zephaniah 3:6-7), "I have cut off the nations, their towers are desolate, I have destroyed their streets… I said, 'Just fear me, accept admonishment.'" From this [verse] we learn that no suffering comes to the world except for the sake of Israel (Talmud, Yevamos 63a). For example, by the setting of the boundaries between nations and countries that was done after the war,[4] it is necessary to understand and remember that before they were set in Versailles, they had already been written and sealed in the Heavenly Court. And there the primary outlook is only for the sake of Israel, either for their benefit or to afflict them for the purpose of admonition, as it is written, “Woe to Assyria, the rod of my anger” (Isaiah 10:5).

וזהו שכתוב "יצב גבולות עמים"—תמיד בכל דור—"למספר בני ישראל" (דברים לב:ח), והטעם "כי חלק ה' עמו," כי ישראל לבדו הוא חלק ה' ולא שאר האומות, וע"כ כל ההנהגה העליונה מתאימה לצורכי עם ישראל. ואף כי דעתנו קצרה מלהבין איזה יחס יש בין צורכי ישראל לגבולות איים רחוקים בקצוי ארץ, אבל קורא הדורות מראש יודע שיש בזה איזה צורך לישראל בהוה או בעתיד, כמ"ש הרמב"ם (פיהמ"ש, הקדמה) שלפעמים נבנה ארמון גדול ומפואר, וכל תכלית מציאותו הוא כי לאחר מאה שנה יעבור איש חסיד בעת זרם מטר ויכנס תחת גג השער מהארמון הזה לחסות ממטר או משלג

This is what is meant by the verse, "He set the boundaries of the peoples" — continually, in every generation — "according to the number of the children of Israel." The reason for this is, "For His people is His portion." Israel alone is the portion of God, and not the other nations, and therefore, all of the Heavenly direction of the world is directed for the needs of the nation of Israel. Even though our understanding is insufficient to grasp what connection there is between the needs of Israel and the boundaries of distant isles at the ends of the earth, but "He Who knows the generations from the beginning" [5] knows that there is some necessity for the Jewish people, in the present or future. As Maimonides writes, sometimes a great and glorious palace will be built, and the entire purpose of its existence is because a century later a pious man will pass by during a rainstorm and he will go under the roof of the palace gate to shelter himself from the rain or snow.

  • A little word of advice from a ‘Yitro’ (a Gentile friend of Israel): In publicly posting this statement that the world was created only for Israel, and that all suffering in the world is for the sake of Israel, you may incite hatred of Israel among Gentiles. There is a saying in a midrash (I forget where) that says that every creature believes the world was created for its sake. And the answers at judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/21840/… strongly imply that G-d loves non-Jews, and thus afflicts them for their own sake also. Be careful brothers!
    – Tom W
    Commented Apr 28, 2022 at 11:58

Reb Yakov Hillel (a great mikubol). In his Sefer Vayashiv Ham brings many proofs that studying the history of great rabbis and the like is a great mitzvah- also see the introduction to the Sefer Hadoros who says the same.

  • The question was if it's considered like learning Torah or not.
    – Shlomy
    Commented Jun 11, 2021 at 17:55

The Torah is not a history book. It's a book of laws and ethics. The 'stories' are merely there to help us understand the laws and ethics. A generalization of Jewish history would probably not count as 'Torah'. However if it's a more close up tale - a story with something for us to learn from it, it would likely be more under the category of 'Torah' and should be refrained from being read on Tisha B'av or in an unclean place.


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