Suppose the only minyan available for someone to attend is one which moves far too fast for him. Even with arriving early and starting ahead of time, he only has time to say a fraction of psukei d'zimra if he wants to daven shmoneh esrei with the minyan. Suppose it would either not be possible for him to arrive early enough to daven the whole davening in time for shmoneh esrei with the group or extremely inconvenient (such as a very early pre-work minyan). Would it be preferable for him to stay home and daven on his own while saying all of psukei d'zimra with focus and attention, or is it better for him to rush, not saying all of it, but saying shmoneh esrei with a minyan?
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3Why stay home? You can go to Shul even if you can't keep up with them ...– YishaiCommented Aug 25, 2014 at 4:28
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2You're case seems highly unlikely. However-long-it-takes-you-to-get-to-Shmone-Esrei is the same amount of time he'd be spending alone.– Double AA ♦Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 4:28
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whereever you have most kawono that is where you should pray. a meenyon that is praying fast most likely doesnt have kawono so you might as well pray home– MoriDowidhYa3aqovCommented Aug 25, 2014 at 4:49
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@Daniel Maybe you would be better off commuting to work early, arriving at the office, and then going to a later minyan around there. Or, maybe there are 9 other men in the area who also don't want to wake up so early, or daven so fast, and you can start a minyan near where you work. Lots of people struggle with this, so you might be successful in starting a nice, slower paced minyan.– JakeCommented Aug 25, 2014 at 9:21
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3@Jake sure but I'm not looking for solutions to the hypothetical problem here, but rather answers to the question (which you do nicely in your answer, btw)– DanielCommented Aug 25, 2014 at 15:49
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According to My Rav
- Say Elokai Neshama, Bircat HaTorah, and Bircat HaShachar
- Say Baruch She'Amar, Ashrei, and Yishtabach
If you can put on tallit and tefillin, and say just the above passages, in the time that it takes the rest of the minyan to say all of Psukei D'Zimra, then it's better to do so, in order to pray with a minyan.
This is assuming that the person is able to keep up with the minyan for shema and shemoneh esreh itself.
If not, (quote from above link)
If one notices that he does not have time to say these berachot [bircat hatorah, elokai, bircat hashachar] and Ashrei and still succeed in praying with the minyan, he should pray individually without omitting anything.
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1The Lubavitcher Rebbe was against skipping any part of davening (even if you'll say it later).– user613Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 13:26
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2@user3949142 The Shulchan Arukh though was in favor of doing so.– Double AA ♦Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 14:09
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1@DoubleAA You're right, the shulchan aruch is in favor of skipping. Once the alter rebbe was asked why he paskens differently in the siddur from his shulchan aruch, he said that the shulchan aruch goes like poskim and siddur goes like mekubalim. So he was asked that he writes in shulchan aruch that when there's a machlokes you follow poskim. He answered: that's what the poskim say. Over here, it could be that the rebbe was speaking about al-pi kaballah, but i need to look at what he says again.– user613Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 14:31
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1@user3949142 Either way, I don't know why this is happening here as this doesn't have to do with the answer. If you would like to post a different answer, go ahead.– Double AA ♦Commented Aug 25, 2014 at 14:33
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2@user613 The answer is clear cut according to Halacha, which is all most Jews need to care about.– Double AA ♦Commented Dec 24, 2015 at 17:16
Siman 52 in Shulchan Aruch is all about the Halachos of which parts of Pesukei D'zimra to skip if one comes late to shul. From the first Mishna Berura there it is apparent that the motivation for skipping parts of Pesukei D'zimra is in deference to the value of davening Shmone Esrei together with the rest of the congregation. Being that that is the case, I would extrapolate that in your case you should be skipping some of your Pesukei D'zimra as well in order to insure that you daven Shmoneh Esrei with the tzibbur. Tefila betzibbur is important enough to require one who is in shul to skip parts of davening in order to make it, I don't think that it would give any preference to staying home in order to say all of Pesukei D'zimra
You might do what I'm doing today, which is to practice at home with a tape of the service or videos available online. With practice comes speed.
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What if I can already daven pretty fast, but the tzibbur just davens really fast? I can probably say pesukei d'zimra faster than most frum Jews in the world if I'm trying to speed. But when I'm davening I'd rather daven b'kavana.– DanielCommented Sep 25, 2017 at 22:13