8

The gemara Avodah Zara (20) explains that praising a non-Jew is a violation of "lo sechaneim", and this is quoted in the Rambam (Hil. Avodah Zara 10:6) and the Shulchan Aruch (Y"D 151, and Shach s.k. 18 says that this applies to all non-Jews).

However, it seems like we aren't so careful about this. After all, Chazal themselves praised Antoninus and Dama ben Nesinah, and it seems like no one, from Rishonim (such as the Rambam's praises of Aristotle) to today, has any serious issue with this. Does anyone know of a source that discusses these specific cases or has a list of 'kulos' that would cover the common practice?

I know of a few exceptions (such the Shulchan Aruch there allows it if it's meant as a praise of Hashem or Jews) and the most widely applicable is probably that of R. Moshe Shterbach (Teshuvos Vehanhagos 4:197) who allows praising a non-Jew whom one doesn't know personally, but it seems like there must be more leniencies.

5
  • 3
    V'Gam Charvonah Zachur LaTov though some say it was Eliyahu jtf.org/forum/index.php?topic=56317.5;wap2
    – ray
    Commented Mar 14, 2014 at 6:41
  • @ray Nice, well put indeed (appropriate that he should be added as an afterthought just as in the song!) Commented Mar 14, 2014 at 16:54
  • 2
    To add to this: "One who says something wise is called a chacham, even if he's not a Jew"- Megillah daf 16 amud aleph. Commented Mar 16, 2014 at 17:22
  • Sounds like you want source only, not a chidush?
    – user6591
    Commented Mar 29, 2016 at 0:44
  • Note that it is pretty clear from the Rambam that this only a problem for idolaters; not like the Shakh. This is pretty much explicit in the Hinukh and Shulhan Arukh. See judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/75268/…. Depending on which people one interacts with, this may be a significant leniency (so much so, that would be more accurate to say that Shakh is a major stringency). If you are interested, I will post this as an answer.
    – mevaqesh
    Commented Sep 4, 2016 at 20:13

3 Answers 3

3

The Rambam in Hilchot Avodat Kochavim 10:1 states that the seven nations are included in the prohibition of lo techaneim, but Jews and Gerei Toshav are not. This seemingly leaves generic idol worship up in the air. The context of the verse in Deuteronomy is clearly restricted to the seven nations, although most Rishonim seem to extend it to all Idolators.

Society today has few idolaters in the classical sense of the word, and with all the murkiness around the law, for the sake of peace (Eivah), like many other laws involving relationships with non-jews, many rabbanim I have come into contact with are lenient. (As per the Shach's klalei hora'ah that state in a time of need one can rely on even a da'at yachid (single opinion) in the Rishonim.

16
  • "for the sake of peace" means Darkhei Shalom, not Mishum Eivah.
    – Double AA
    Commented Mar 18, 2014 at 5:47
  • 1
    Re: Hilkhot Avodah Zarah 10:1: Although Shiv'ah Amamin is used here (and presumably in most printed editions), the Mechon Mamre edition (here) uses Ovdei Avodah Zarah and Goy instead, and even Eliyahu Touger's translation (here) uses the more generic "idolaters" and "gentiles".
    – Tamir Evan
    Commented Mar 18, 2014 at 7:49
  • 1
    The context of the next verse in Deuteronomy is also "clearly restricted to the seven nations" with regard to marrying into them. Does that mean we could be lenient on that (Lo Ta'aseh 52 and Isurei Bi'ah 12:1) too?
    – Tamir Evan
    Commented Mar 18, 2014 at 8:24
  • 1
    @Matt: see the Chiddushei ha-Meiri (Beit Habechirah), Avoda Zara 20a for a clear rishon. I don't see how you could conceivably construe this as not a sha'at hadchak.Additionally, in my understanding of the Torah's hashkafah, "deracheha darchei noam v'chol netivoteha shalom." As such, before looking for chumrot here (because the Shach and Netziv are both clearly machmir), I will rely on the leniencies of the the Meiri as paskened by Rav Henkin, the Seridei Eish, and my own personal posek.
    – Yehuda
    Commented Mar 21, 2014 at 4:12
  • 1
    That Shach is quoting the Beis Yosef who in turn was explaining the Tur, who as the Bach points out was simply quoting the Gemara which says Goy, not Akum. Akum was interpolated by the, well, Akums. So anyone who wants to be midayek Akum as opposed to goy is working against all the sources. Second, any meiri quoted from maseches Avoda Zara being lenient concerning Akums is assumed to be not halakhically helpful as no one relies on him to treat Christians as not Ovdei Avoda Zara.
    – user6591
    Commented Mar 29, 2016 at 0:43
2

The Tzitz Eliezer has a well explained Tshuva on Lo Sechonem, and goes through heterim on the subject. It goes through the Rambam praising Aristotle, and Gemaras praising Goyim, and Goyish nations. Tzitz Eliezer Chelek 15, Siman 47

2
  • What are those heterim? At the moment this seems like a link only answer.
    – mevaqesh
    Commented Oct 30, 2017 at 15:46
  • 1
    What happens if it's a link-only answer?
    – Ari
    Commented Oct 30, 2017 at 19:14
-2

I knew a Rav in Jerusalem who would refer to Shakespeare and other great gentile authors, only semi-sarcastically, as "moreinu v'rabbenu." I've never heard that one isn't supposed to praise a gentile. We don't poskin directly from the gemara.

1
  • 8
    Of course we don't pasken directly from the gemara. But when that gemara is quoted by the Rif, Rosh, and Rambam, then codified in the Shulchan Aruch, and discussed by the nosei keilim and in contemporary teshuvah literature... Commented Mar 17, 2014 at 3:41

You must log in to answer this question.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged .