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Apr 3, 2016 at 11:55 comment added SAH Related: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/45100/…
Jan 3, 2016 at 5:32 vote accept Aaliyah
Jan 3, 2016 at 5:31 comment added mbloch @JJLL by the time you light the havdala candle, you have said "Ata chonantanu" in the shmonei esrei of motsei shabat, which is actually the primary form of havdala
Jan 3, 2016 at 5:31 history tweeted twitter.com/StackJudaism/status/683520947828178944
Jan 3, 2016 at 5:22 comment added Monica Cellio @JJLL judaism.stackexchange.com/q/13922/472
Jan 3, 2016 at 5:10 comment added JJLL Forgive my ignorance but don't you light the havdala candle immediately before the service? Doesn't the act of lighting the candle signify the Sabbath has ended? Otherwise, wouldn't havdala service have to come before lighting the candle?
Jan 3, 2016 at 5:05 history edited msh210
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S Jan 3, 2016 at 5:03 history suggested mbloch CC BY-SA 3.0
changed Reform and Orthodox labels to non-observant and observant which is what the OP means as per his comments
Jan 3, 2016 at 4:43 comment added mbloch @Aaliyah I allowed myself to edit the question to adjust Reform/Orthodox labels to non-observant/observant which appears to be what you meant to ask. As we all know there are observant Reform Jews and some Orthodox Jews who do not perform all mitzvot. Feel free to revert if you disagree
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Jan 3, 2016 at 4:41 answer added mbloch timeline score: 7
Jan 3, 2016 at 3:37 comment added Aaliyah @MonicaCellio It's just an example to try to make the question more practical, just assuming that the typical Reform Jew doesn't do Havdallah to Orthdox standards. You could say secular Jew or any Jew who doesn't do Havdallah as well. It was just how I put the question together.
Jan 3, 2016 at 2:08 comment added Monica Cellio Are you asking about Reform (and presuming that Reform Jews won't do havdalah), or is that just an example and your question is really about benefiting from work done by someone who didn't do havdalah? They're different questions.
Jan 3, 2016 at 1:50 history asked Aaliyah CC BY-SA 3.0