Timeline for Are Jews allowed to contribute to the reconstruction of the Paris cathedral?
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| Apr 17, 2019 at 9:31 | comment | added | Reb Chaim HaQoton | See here: forum.otzar.org/viewtopic.php?p=538893#p538893 who argues that it was at Notre Dame. | |
| Apr 17, 2019 at 6:01 | history | tweeted | twitter.com/StackJudaism/status/1118394002850680833 | ||
| Apr 16, 2019 at 19:20 | comment | added | DonielF | @Avrohom That's been going around. First is as Double said, it wasn't burned at Notre Dame. Second is that the wording of the Kinnah strongly suggests that the author intended that the praise be bestowed upon the one who burns those who did the burning, not the place where it was burned. I've also heard people making up something about Shmuel of Falaise being killed in the aftermath along with other Ba'alei Tosfos, which is completely false. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 16:11 | answer | added | Alex | timeline score: 4 | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 15:24 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @Avrohom it wasn't in the Place du Parvis the square right in front of Notre Dame, it was across the river and down the block at the Place de Grève | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 15:18 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | @JoelK anything is possible. not anything is reasonable. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 14:59 | comment | added | Joel K | @DoubleAA Unless a slew of individual donations of $18 becomes noticed and publicized... | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 13:09 | comment | added | Avrohom Yitzchok | From a Facebook post: The world is in shock at the burning down of the Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. The מהר"ם מרוטנבורג authored a קינה that we say on תשעה באב. The קינה begins שאלי שרופה באש and he composed this קינה after the burning of the Talmud in the mid 1200's in Paris right in front of the Notre Dame. In the קינה he writes ולכן אשרי שישלם לך גמוליך, צורי בלפיד ואש, הלבעבור זה נתנך כי באחריתך תלהט אש בשוליך. Seems like today it was fulfilled .... | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 12:15 | history | edited | msh210♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 11:59 | comment | added | Double AA♦ | A public group donation is at least making some sort of public Kiddush Hashem / Darkei Shalom / payment for help when a Shul is attacked/burned. A private individual donation wouldn't have any such Heter. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 11:13 | comment | added | Kazi bácsi | @AlBerko This is exactly my concern, as it is a functioning church. If you bring sources on the ban, I suppose we have an answer. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 11:10 | comment | added | Al Berko | Is the church active or it is a museum or something? I think even if it isn't it falls under "ואבדתם את כל המקומות". THeoretically, if we could separate the art and the religion in it we could participate in restoration, but since they are one I don't see any permission to spend money on a church, no matter how important it was. | |
| Apr 16, 2019 at 10:26 | history | edited | Kazi bácsi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 10:25 | history | rollback | Kazi bácsi |
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 10:17 | history | edited | Al Berko | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 10:15 | history | asked | Kazi bácsi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |