Questions tagged [trop-cantillation]
The traditional musical tunes that are used to chant the various books of Tanakh.
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Are there online sources for learning Te’amim of Tehillim?
Are there any online sources for learning how to read the Sephardi Te’amim of Tehillim? While I can find recordings, I can’t find any list or descriptions of the exceptions and such—for example, when ...
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Help learning Yemenite teamim for Yom Kippur morning Haftorah [duplicate]
How can I best learn the Yemenite teamim so I can chant the Yom Kippur morning Haftorah? I am already fluent with Ashkenazi teamim.
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Navigating the Bible II
Does anybody know what happened to "Navigating the Bible II"? It used to be hosted in bible.ort.org, but it's gone. I understand it featured cantor Moshe Haschel. It was a great resource. I ...
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How are *kri uksivs* marked in a Megillah/klaf that has vowels?
Chayei Adam brings down (155:14) that technically yes, one could take a handwritten Megillas Esther, add in the vowels and cantillation marks, and it would still be kosher:
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Exceptions to pausal form [duplicate]
The pasuq reads, (Vayiqra 3:14)
ג,יד וְהִקְרִ֤יב מִמֶּ֨נּוּ֙ קָרְבָּנ֔וֹ אִשֶּׁ֖ה לַֽיהוָ֑ה אֶת־הַחֵ֨לֶב֙ הַֽמְכַסֶּ֣ה אֶת־הַקֶּ֔רֶב וְאֵת֙ כָּל־הַחֵ֔לֶב אֲשֶׁ֖ר עַל־הַקֶּֽרֶב׃
Why does the segol of ...
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Lo Tirtzach: Kamatz or Patach?
Minchat Shai at the beginning of Shemot 20 describes a version of the text of the Decalogue where the tzadi in the word תרצח has both a kamatz and a patach under it. He explains that the kamatz ...
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Vayikra 14:19 differences in trope
וְכִפֶּ֕ר עַל־הַמִּטַּהֵ֖ר מִטֻּמְאָת֑וֹ I am having trouble truly understanding the difference of meaning using the different trope (zakef gadol, tipcha, etnachtah OR mercha tipcha etnachtah). I ...
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Learning to chant Torah with trope
It takes me at least 3-4 hours (cumulative) to learn 5-10 psukim (sentences) in trope. This is just one Aliyah! And unlike many of you, I know the notes, the grammar, and understand most of the words. ...
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Pausal form with a non-pausal cantillation mark
Someone pointed me to the following unusual verse (Malakhi 1:6):
בֵּ֛ן יְכַבֵּ֥ד אָ֖ב וְעֶ֣בֶד אֲדֹנָ֑יו וְאִם־אָ֣ב אָ֣נִי אַיֵּ֣ה כְבוֹדִ֡י וְאִם־אֲדוֹנִ֣ים אָנִי֩ אַיֵּ֨ה מֽוֹרָאִ֜י אָמַ֣ר ׀ ...
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How many pesukim are there that have two (or more) etnachta clauses?
The Pasuk Bereshit 35:22 carries two entachta clauses and a pasuk break without a sof pasuk Trope. Are there other pesukim with
a) two or more etnachta clauses?
b) a paska within the pasuk, i.e. with ...
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Is cantillation with Kriyat Shema required?
Is one required to recite Kriyat Shema with the tune of Torah reading? I know it says so in Talmidei Rabbenu Yonah on the Rif Brachoth 8b, however, as someone who learned Hebrew later in life, it is ...
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Why the rarest musical notes (Teamim) are located at the same verse in the Torah?
What is the reason that stand behind the fact that the rarest musical notes (Teamim) in the Torah are located in the same verse? What is so special in this specific verse to be chosen for those ...
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How are the trope / taamim of Sifrei Emeth Sung? [duplicate]
Some books in Tanach have a different kind of trop for the words. (see Psalms, e.g. under בַּעֲצַ֢ת and above רְשָׁ֫עִ֥ים)
How is this trop read/sung?
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How many taamim/cantillation/trop marks are there?
I know there are different nusachot, but is there a maximal amount?
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ולא תתורו: kadma veazla or azla-geresh?
In the third parashah of Shema' (maftir from P' Shelach) we have a divergence of cantillation on the words ולא תתורו. In R' Wolf Heidenheim (see Koren for a contempary example) these words are ...
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Learning How to Lein, Chabad-style
I have trouble picking up tunes, and therefore I have never been able to catch how to lein. I have listened to a few Torah reading tutorial tapes, listened to the Chabad cantillation tune many time, ...
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Ambiguity due to lack of punctuation
In Hungarian medieval history there's an interesting episode, when a few high ranking noblemen conspired to kill the queen. They asked the archbishop what to do, but he was hesitant to join either ...
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Penultimate stress of אתה
By default, the world אַתָּה (you) has a final stress. If I am correct (and the concordance as well), out of 172 occurrences 159 satisfies this rule in the Torah (92%).* However, if this word is in a ...
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Could the trop of מה-פעל אל be a me'ayla?
כִּ֤י לֹא־נַ֙חַשׁ֙ בְּיַעֲקֹ֔ב וְלֹא־קֶ֖סֶם בְּיִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל כָּעֵ֗ת יֵאָמֵ֤ר לְיַעֲקֹב֙ וּלְיִשְׂרָאֵ֔ל מַה־פָּ֖עַל אֵֽל׃
Bamidbar 23:23
The word פעל is mile'eil (according to R' Breuer's conclusion ...
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Cantillation of the last chapter of Shema
It just caught my eyes that in the Artscroll siddur I use in the synagogue writes Bemidbar 15:39 the following way:
וְהָיָ֣ה לָכֶם֮ לְצִיצִת֒ וּרְאִיתֶ֣ם אֹת֗וֹ וּזְכַרְתֶּם֙ אֶת־כָּל־מִצְוֺ֣ת ...
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Which passages in Megillat Esther are read with a different trope? [duplicate]
It's common practice to chant certain passages of Megillat Esther with a different trope. For example, 8:6 is read to the trope of Eichah, as are several other passages; in addition, certain passages ...
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Is practicing laining considered learning Torah?
Is practicing laining for a Parsha considered Talmud Torah?
Namely, does this "count" as Torah learning, would one get s'char for this etc OR could it be considered more like memorizing a song?
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Two instances of etnaḥta in Iyov 22:21
My Koren Ma'alot Tanakh (2018, ISBN 978-965-301-894-5) has Iyov 22:21 like this:
הַסְכֶּן־נָ֣א עִמּ֑וֹ וּשְׁלָ֑ם בָּ֝הֶ֗ם תְּֽבוֹאָֽתְךָ֥ טוֹבָֽה׃
Is this a mistake, or is it trying to indicate an ...
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What is the trope for Ezra/Nehemiah and Daniel
I have been studying these seforim and noticed the text is marked with trope. However, since these seforim are not read publically, what is the proper cantillation? Like neviim?
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Where can I find the music of the trop for Book of Ruth
I need to find out the trop for the book of Ruth fairly soon because our Rabbi has developed a minor illness and I'll have to do the reading on Shavuot. Surely there is something on the web with the ...
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Does the Mishnah have Taamei Mikrah?
In this book (end of #20, in bold), R' Shmaryahu Horowitz quotes the book "Maase Efod" by R' Yitzhak ben Moshe Halevy (1350-1415), that lists the proper ways of Torah learning and mentions ...
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Reading the megillah without the taamim (cantillation)
The Kesser Shem Tov 2:pg.536 writes that the minhag of London and Amsterdam is to read the Megillah without the taamim (cantillation). This minhag is also found in Alger and Ashkanaz. The reason that ...
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Is there an algorithmic way to determine whether a munakh is a munakh legarmei?
In general, a munakh before psik munakh revii is a munakh legarmei. That’s the easy part.
But this question makes it clear that there are others. Specifically, they occasionally occur
Before mapakh
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Is there a way to lein Taamei Emes that includes mesharsim?
I learned to lein Taamei Emes a few years ago using this link, which I found in a comment here on MY.
However, the tradition recorded there only takes the mafsikim into account, and all the mesharsim,...
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Determining Accented Syllable from Ta'amei Emet
I don't know the Ta'amei Emet, the system of markings used in Job, Proverbs, and Psalms, but I'd like to be able to know what syllable to accent when I read words from those books. So, I'm looking for ...
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What is Tarha Acharona?
Found this picture in this latin book. It seems to distinguish between a tarha and a tarha aharona. Any ideas what it is?
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When was music attached to trope?
My shul's chazzan and I have a good relationship, B"H. I ask him nusach questions; he asks me (A Torah reader) Torah questions. So, I'm passing this on from him...
We both understand that the main ...
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Is there a Targum Onkelos with Te'amim?
Is there a Targum Onkelos available online with Te'amim? I witnessed several versions of this in Yemenite and certain Sefardic books.
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Neḥemia 8:7 - Six pazers?
Neḥemia 8:7
וְיֵשׁ֡וּעַ וּבָנִ֡י וְשֵׁרֵ֥בְיָ֣ה ׀ יָמִ֡ין עַקּ֡וּב שַׁבְּתַ֣י ׀ הֽוֹדִיָּ֡֡ה מַעֲשֵׂיָ֡ה קְלִיטָ֣א עֲזַרְיָה֩ יוֹזָבָ֨ד חָנָ֤ן פְּלָאיָה֙ וְהַלְוִיִּ֔֔ם מְבִינִ֥ים אֶת־הָעָ֖ם ...
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What is special in "2000 ama" that it have the unique note [duplicate]
What is special in the words "2000 ama" in the verce numbers 35.5 that is has a conitasinal note that is unique in thw chumash (only found once)
Onther places in the bible that it is found
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In 1 Sam. 20:25, why does עַל-מוֹשָׁבוֹ appear to have two te'amim?
I understand that there is a rule (with rare exceptions) that a single word cannot bear two Masoretic accents. However, I have not seen 1 Sam. 20:25 listed as one of the exceptions:
וַיֵּ֣שֶׁב ...
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Using Eicha trop when learning
When leining in shul, there are a few minhagim about what gets read with the Eicha trop. This is what I've seen most often (in chronological order through the year):
איכה אשא לבדי in Devarim
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Mil'al vs. Milra on "Lamah"
In a few places in the Torah, the word למה is pronounced מלעיל (accent on 1st syllable) and in other places מלרע (accent on 2nd syllable.)
I viewed Bemidbar 11:11 which has both in the same verse. ...
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Why do Ashkenazi Orthodox Jews Chant With Reform Trope?
From what I've been able to gather the most popular/standard/traditional te'amim melodies were collected, blended, and then published by Abrahim Binder, a reform Jew.
Source: http://www.milkenarchive....
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End note in ספרי אמ״ת
I asked here and was answered here that there exists free means on the internet to learn the trup of Tehilim, siferei emes.
Someone even linked a YouTube video of a kid reading with the trup.
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Why is מקראי קדש not נסוג אחור?
In Parshat Emor, Vayikra 23:2:
דַּבֵּ֞ר אֶל־בְּנֵ֤י יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ וְאָמַרְתָּ֣ אֲלֵהֶ֔ם מוֹעֲדֵ֣י יְהוָ֔ה אֲשֶׁר־תִּקְרְא֥וּ אֹתָ֖ם מִקְרָאֵ֣י קֹ֑דֶשׁ אֵ֥לֶּה הֵ֖ם מוֹעֲדָֽי׃
And also 23:37:
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Are there two verses anywhere in Tanakh with the same words but different cantillation?
Are there two pesukim anywhere in Tanakh which contain exactly the same words, but which have different cantillation? I am particularly interested in cases where the different cantillation causes the ...
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Determining trup, without trup
It was told in the name of Rabbi Heinenman of Baltimore, that there is such a concept of determining trup (טעמי מקרא) based on some sort of system.
Meaning if I knew of such a system, and I saw this ...
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End of Chapter Trope in Megillah [duplicate]
It is a common custom of many baalei keriah (public readers of scripture) to do a special Trope for the end of every chapter in a Megillah (listen e.g. here at ~13 minutes). Given that, historically, ...
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Cantillation as punctuation in Kuzari
In the Kuzari (2:72), the "chaver" says of the cantillation marks (טעמי המקרא):
הם מצינים את המקום בו התכון המדבר להפסיק בין ענין לענין ואת המקום בו רצה להמשיך בענין; וכן מבדילים הם בין ...
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Search Database with Ta'amei Hamikra
Does there exist an application or website that allows one to search for specific patterns with טעמי המקרא? For example, to find all occurrences of two consecutive זרקא's (as in וה' הכה כל בכור).
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What is the origin for the names of the various trope/cantillation signs?
I would like to know the origin of the names for the various cantillation marks, understanding that there are different names for different notes
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English Book on Trop
My question is simple: is there an English-language book on cantillation, which includes Ta'amei Eme"t, rare trop, and their grammatical purposes ?
I've seen books on learning to lehn and recognise ...
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Does the Atnah/Etnahtah Denote Emphasis
Im learning with a new te'amim teacher. He mentioned that one cant rely on the atnah / etnahta symbol to show syllabic emphasis. He also said that the symbol never shows up on the end of a word. Can ...
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Is there a special trope for the very end of the Torah? If so, what is it and what does it sound like?
I am pretty sure that there is a special trope for the very, very end of the Torah. However, I cannot find it. I need to know by tomorrow so please answer! Thanks!
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