Questions tagged [trop-cantillation]
The traditional musical tunes that are used to chant the various books of Tanakh.
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Reading the megillah without the taamim (cantillation)
The Kesser Shem Tov 2:pg.536 writes that the minhag of London and Amsterdam is to read the Megillah without the taamim (cantillation). This minhag is also found in Alger and Ashkanaz. The reason that ...
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Is there an algorithmic way to determine whether a munakh is a munakh legarmei?
In general, a munakh before psik munakh revii is a munakh legarmei. That’s the easy part.
But this question makes it clear that there are others. Specifically, they occasionally occur
Before mapakh
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Is there a way to lein Taamei Emes that includes mesharsim?
I learned to lein Taamei Emes a few years ago using this link, which I found in a comment here on MY.
However, the tradition recorded there only takes the mafsikim into account, and all the mesharsim,...
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Determining Accented Syllable from Ta'amei Emet
I don't know the Ta'amei Emet, the system of markings used in Job, Proverbs, and Psalms, but I'd like to be able to know what syllable to accent when I read words from those books. So, I'm looking for ...
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What is Tarha Acharona?
Found this picture in this latin book. It seems to distinguish between a tarha and a tarha aharona. Any ideas what it is?
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Understanding the cantillation of Bereshit 5:29 [duplicate]
In Bereshit 5:29 it states
וַיִּקְרָ֧א אֶת־שְׁמ֛וֹ נֹ֖חַ לֵאמֹ֑ר זֶ֠ה יְנַחֲמֵ֤נוּ
In every chumash I have seen the word זה has 2 cantillation marks on it a telisha and a gershayim (according to the ...
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When was music attached to trope?
My shul's chazzan and I have a good relationship, B"H. I ask him nusach questions; he asks me (A Torah reader) Torah questions. So, I'm passing this on from him...
We both understand that the main ...
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Neḥemia 8:7 - Six pazers?
Neḥemia 8:7
וְיֵשׁ֡וּעַ וּבָנִ֡י וְשֵׁרֵ֥בְיָ֣ה ׀ יָמִ֡ין עַקּ֡וּב שַׁבְּתַ֣י ׀ הֽוֹדִיָּ֡֡ה מַעֲשֵׂיָ֡ה קְלִיטָ֣א עֲזַרְיָה֩ יוֹזָבָ֨ד חָנָ֤ן פְּלָאיָה֙ וְהַלְוִיִּ֔֔ם מְבִינִ֥ים אֶת־הָעָ֖ם ...
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What is special in “2000 ama” that it have the unique note [duplicate]
What is special in the words "2000 ama" in the verce numbers 35.5 that is has a conitasinal note that is unique in thw chumash (only found once)
Onther places in the bible that it is found
(במדבר לה ...
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In 1 Sam. 20:25, why does עַל-מוֹשָׁבוֹ appear to have two te'amim?
I understand that there is a rule (with rare exceptions) that a single word cannot bear two Masoretic accents. However, I have not seen 1 Sam. 20:25 listed as one of the exceptions:
וַיֵּ֣שֶׁב ...
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Using Eicha trop when learning
When leining in shul, there are a few minhagim about what gets read with the Eicha trop. This is what I've seen most often (in chronological order through the year):
איכה אשא לבדי in Devarim
Most of ...
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Mil'al vs. Milra on “Lamah”
In a few places in the Torah, the word למה is pronounced מלעיל (accent on 1st syllable) and in other places מלרע (accent on 2nd syllable.)
I viewed Bemidbar 11:11 which has both in the same verse. ...
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Why do Ashkenazi Orthodox Jews Chant With Reform Trope?
From what I've been able to gather the most popular/standard/traditional te'amim melodies were collected, blended, and then published by Abrahim Binder, a reform Jew.
Source: http://www.milkenarchive....
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End note in ספרי אמ״ת
I asked here and was answered here that there exists free means on the internet to learn the trup of Tehilim, siferei emes.
Someone even linked a YouTube video of a kid reading with the trup.
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Why is מקראי קדש not נסוג אחור?
In Parshat Emor, Vayikra 23:2:
דַּבֵּ֞ר אֶל־בְּנֵ֤י יִשְׂרָאֵל֙ וְאָמַרְתָּ֣ אֲלֵהֶ֔ם מוֹעֲדֵ֣י יְהוָ֔ה אֲשֶׁר־תִּקְרְא֥וּ אֹתָ֖ם מִקְרָאֵ֣י קֹ֑דֶשׁ אֵ֥לֶּה הֵ֖ם מוֹעֲדָֽי׃
And also 23:37:
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Are there two verses anywhere in Tanakh with the same words but different cantillation?
Are there two pesukim anywhere in Tanakh which contain exactly the same words, but which have different cantillation? I am particularly interested in cases where the different cantillation causes the ...
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Determining trup, without trup
It was told in the name of Rabbi Heinenman of Baltimore, that there is such a concept of determining trup (טעמי מקרא) based on some sort of system.
Meaning if I knew of such a system, and I saw this ...
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End of Chapter Trope in Megillah [duplicate]
It is a common custom of many baalei keriah (public readers of scripture) to do a special Trope for the end of every chapter in a Megillah (listen e.g. here at ~13 minutes). Given that, historically, ...
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Cantillation as punctuation in Kuzari
In the Kuzari (2:72), the "chaver" says of the cantillation marks (טעמי המקרא):
הם מצינים את המקום בו התכון המדבר להפסיק בין ענין לענין ואת המקום בו רצה להמשיך בענין; וכן מבדילים הם בין שאלה לתשובה ...
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Search Database with Ta'amei Hamikra
Does there exist an application or website that allows one to search for specific patterns with טעמי המקרא? For example, to find all occurrences of two consecutive זרקא's (as in וה' הכה כל בכור).
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What is the origin for the names of the various trope/cantillation signs?
I would like to know the origin of the names for the various cantillation marks, understanding that there are different names for different notes
related 1, 2
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English Book on Trop
My question is simple: is there an English-language book on cantillation, which includes Ta'amei Eme"t, rare trop, and their grammatical purposes ?
I've seen books on learning to lehn and recognise ...
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Does the Atnah/Etnahtah Denote Emphasis
Im learning with a new te'amim teacher. He mentioned that one cant rely on the atnah / etnahta symbol to show syllabic emphasis. He also said that the symbol never shows up on the end of a word. Can ...
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Is there a special trope for the very end of the Torah? If so, what is it and what does it sound like?
I am pretty sure that there is a special trope for the very, very end of the Torah. However, I cannot find it. I need to know by tomorrow so please answer! Thanks!
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How does one know the tune when praying in Hebrew?
I know that there are trope applied to the Hebrew Bible to tell the chanter how to chant the text. However, what I'm wondering is that how does one know how to chant the Hebrew text when simply ...
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Trop on the word וְעַם in Megillat Esther 4:11
In Esther 4:11, the pasuk tells us כָּל־עַבְדֵ֣י הַמֶּ֡לֶךְ וְעַם־מְדִינ֨וֹת הַמֶּ֜לֶךְ. In different versions of the megillah, I have either seen no trop mark on the word וְעַם oir seen a telisha ...
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Need to find the melody for Eicha
Our Rabbi is on vacation and I have been volunteered to read Eicha for Tisha b'Av.
I would like to use a correct melody. (I can follow trop pretty well and lain Torah with some preparation, so if ...
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Kriat hatorah simchat torah
Why in many ashkenazi communities is the torah reading of simchat torah read with the melody of the yamim noraim?
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Please I need help: to find online Ruth Cantillation (teamim) of Livorno tradition. Maybe in some University department (Ramat Aviv ,Givat Ram)?
Is it possible to find online (audio to listen) Cantillation of biblical book : Ruth, for specific Livorno traditional music? Maybe in some University department (like Ramat Aviv or Givat Ram)? Or ...
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Explain the usage of the double zarka trope
There are 3 places in the Torah (that I know of) that have a double zarka trope note before the segol:
Breishit 42:21
Shemot 12:29
Vayikra 17:5
What does the double zarka mean grammatically, and why ...
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Practical suggestions for choosing between different nuschaot in the Torah
Unfortunately, it's not hard to find places in the Torah, and even more so in Nach, where we have a doubt about either the trop or the nekudot. (Or, more rarely, letters, but those are generally the ...
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How to deal with uncertainties in the Torah that lead to a change in meaning?
In Vayikra 14:19, there are different versions of the trop, and unlike most of them, this difference causes a change in the meaning of the words:
וְכִפֶּ֕ר עַל־הַמִּטַּהֵ֖ר מִטֻּמְאָת֑וֹ
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Why do Rishonim ignore the ta'amei di'krah when giving pshat in a posuk?
Why is it that sometimes one finds that Rishonim who attempt to explain the simple pshat of a posuk in Tehillim (Eben Ezrah, Radak, Me'iri, Seforno), will ignore the ta'amei di'krah (the simanim that ...
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Special coda for end of Torah “book”
We read a special coda used at the end of each of the five books of the Torah that leads to the traditional exclamation of "Chazak chazak V'Nitchazek!" - can anyone give me the basis for this or ...
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Music of Yemenite Jews: Baladi vs Shammi
I know there are differences of prayer and practice between Baladi and Shammi for Yemenites. But is the music the same? Are the melodies of the te'amim the same?
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Why do Torah scrolls not have vowels or Trope?
Why do Torah scrolls not have vowels or Trope, thus forcing the reader to memorize both?
Is there a historical or Halachic reason for this?
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Which Maqam is Haftarah Chanted In?
In the Sephardic/Edot Ha Mizrach tradition, the te'amim of the Torah are chanted in maqam sigah/sikah. Which maqam is the Haftarah chanted in?
Note:
A maqam (مقام), which in Arabic literally ...
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Unusual Qadmas in Daniel 4
In Daniel 4:9 and 4:18, there is a sequence of te'amim that seems to me to be unusual:
ומז֨ון לכלא֭־ב֑הּ
The first word is pointed with a qadma/azla, which (apart from here) is never a servus of ...
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Torah punctuated with trop?
The passuk in Devarim (31:19) reads: ועתה כתבו לכם את השירה הזאת ולמדה את בני ישראל שימה בפיהם, "And now, write for yourselves this song (i.e. the Torah) and teach it to the Bnei Yisrael; place it in ...
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Trop of את ה____ האלה
The first pasuk of Ekev, Devarim 7:12:
וְהָיָ֣ה ׀ עֵ֣קֶב תִּשְׁמְע֗וּן אֵ֤ת הַמִּשְׁפָּטִים֙ הָאֵ֔לֶּה וּשְׁמַרְתֶּ֥ם וַֽעֲשִׂיתֶ֖ם אֹתָ֑ם וְשָׁמַר֩ יְהוָ֨ה אֱלֹהֶ֜יךָ לְךָ֗ אֶֽת־הַבְּרִית֙ וְאֶת־...
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Esnachta in taam elyon
Except in Tehillim, Mishlei, and most of Iyov, the esnachta indicates the biggest break in a pasuk. In the taam elyon in both Yisro and Vaetchanan, the second dibra is one pasuk, with the esnachta ...
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Is there any Haftarah that has all the te'amim/trope symbols?
Is there any Haftarah that has all the te'amim/trope symbols? i will be transcribing melodies from a specific Hazzan who reads, and so i need to find every te'am that occurs so that way i can compile ...
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Difference between munach legarmei revii and gershayim revii
Is there any grammatical difference between a munach legarmei before a revii and a gershayim before a revii?
For example, the first words in Bamidbar 16:17 and 16:18 are very similar (וקחו/ויקחו איש ...
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Parsing Shehechiyyanu
When reading the megilloth in shul from a klaf, many say the blessing of shehechiyyanu1. I have noticed that many people sing this blessing in its own tune (ie. not in trope), but I have also heard ...
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Was it a non-Jew who first discovered the principles governing the ta'ame ha-miqra?
I wrote to a very well respected and knowledgeable Rav regarding grammatical functions of the te'amim and the discrepancies that exist between the Sephardic and Ashkenazic systems. His response ...
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Why are cantillation notes called טעמי המקרא?
Cantillation notes (aka trope) is called טעמי המקרא in Hebrew.
I have seen the Hebrew word טעם used to mean:
taste as in:
Numbers 11:8:
שָׁטוּ֩ הָעָ֨ם וְלָֽקְט֜וּ וְטָחֲנ֣וּ בָרֵחַ֗יִם א֤וֹ ...
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Is there an obligation to sing the Torah cantillation notes?
My understanding of the purpose of the trope (cantillation) notes is that they were initially (Massorah) meant for the purposes of grammar and pronunciation. I've hunted a few web sites, and I couldn'...
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Where is there a munach legarmei before a kadma?
On the side of Shemini 10:6, the blue Tikkun Simanim quotes the mesorah that there are three places where a munach legarmei is before a mahpach: there, Emor 21:10, and Rut 1:2.
Then it says (in ...
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Where to find online/digital Torah Reading Resources for All Traditions?
The wife and i are interested in the various musical traditions of Biblical cantillation (aka trope, aka te'amim). However, finding reliable recordings of decent quality are always hit and miss. Does ...
