Questions tagged [tisha-bav]

9th of Av; anniversary of the destruction of both Temples in Jerusalem; a general day of mourning for historical Jewish tragedies.

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Why do we not say selichot on Tisha B'Av?

Every fast day on the Jewish calendar has its set of selichot that are said. The one exception to this is Tisha B'Av. This seems counter-intuitive to me because Tisha B'Av is the day when we mourn the ...
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Havdalah if you have to eat or drink on Tisha B'Av that comes out on Sunday

If a person for whatever reason has to eat and drink on Tisha B'Av that comes out on Sunday, and they know this ahead of time, when should they make havdallah on a cos? Should they make Motzei Shabbos ...
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Showering after chatzos on Friday the 8th of Av

This year the ninth of Av falls out on Shabbos which means that there are somewhat different laws that are practiced than in a typical year at this time (e.g. the fast is observed on Sunday). With ...
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Can one practice their Leining on Tisha Be'av? [duplicate]

One cannot learn Torah on Tisha Be'av. Is practicing one's leining considered 'learning'? To an extent if one understands the words one's saying automatically one will have learnt Torah.
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Is someone allowed to walk home from shul wearing leather shoes on Tish'a B'Av?

Since Tish'a B'av begins immediately after Shabbat, this year, this can present a shoe problem on Motza'ei Shabbat. The conditions / halachot: One is not allowed to wear leather shoes on Tish'a B'Av....
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Prohibition of Meat and Wine on the 9th of Av

Is there a specific prohibition against the consumption of meat and wine of the 9th of Av besides for the general obligation to fast? This question makes a difference in the case of someone who is ...
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Current applicability to not wearing leather shoes on Tish'a B'Av and Yom Kippur

I understand that the 5 forms of inuy ("affliction) that occur on Yom Kippur also applies to Tish'a B'Av. One of these is the prohibition to wear leather shoes. I viewed this M.Y. answer which offers ...
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Is a person allowed to wear tefillin during Tish'a B'Av Shacaharit if he won't be able to daven mincha that day?

Let's say a person needs surgery on Tish'a B'Av in the afternoon. He knows that he will not be able to daven Mincha. Should he wear tefillin during Shacharit instead? What if he attends shul for ...
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Can one eat meat on erev shabbos in the 9 days for the mitzvah of טאמאה? [duplicate]

I remember learning once that it is a mitzvah to taste at least one food on erev shabbos that will be served on shabbos. I believe it is called טאמאה. So today is erev shabbos Rosh Chodesh during the ...
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Shavua SheChal Bo when Tisha Bav is Nidcha (Pushed off) [duplicate]

When the fast of Tisha B'Av is pushed off from a Shabbos to Sunday do the minhagim of Shavua Shechal Bo apply for the whole week leading up to Shabbos (Since 9 of Av is shabbos) or is there ...
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Sitting on a toilet during Tisha B'Av

May one sit on a toilet during Tisha B'Av, when sitting on chairs is generally forbidden? Are there any requirements that he hurry up as much as possible?
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Surgery During the “The Three Weeks” and Tisha b'Av

Are there restrictions having surgery during the "Three Weeks" and Tisha b'Av? What are the sources for restrictions/limitations if there any?
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Shabbat on Tisha B'Av: any liturgical changes?

When Tisha B'Av falls on a weekday there are liturgical changes, plus (I've been taught) we refrain from singing in favor of just reciting, and we sit on the floor (as in mourning). When Tisha B'Av ...
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Was the fast of Tisha B'av in effect during the second temple era? [duplicate]

As the Beis Hamikdash was rebuilt at that time was the fast of Tisha B'Av in effect during the Second Temple Era?
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Wiping hands on Tisha b'Av

Since many authorities permit wiping the hands if one does not have water to wash with (when washing for bread), is one forbidden to wipe their hands on Tisha b'Av?
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Churban Bayis Sheini Not on Tisha B'Av?

I recently heard that the destruction of the 2nd Temple was not actually on Tisha B'av, the date of the destruction of the 1st Temple, but that it was pretty close, so the rabbis had it commemorated ...
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What is the connection between Moshiach and Tisha B'Av?

I often see the following from Yerushalmi Berachot cited as a source that Moshiach will be born on Tisha B'Av: עובדא הוה בחד יהודאי דהוה קאים רדי געת תורתיה קומוי עבר חד ערביי ושמע קלה א"ל בר יודאי ...
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The full story behind “Kohen and Navi”?

In Eicha (and in Kinnot), there's mention of a "Cohen and Navi" that was killed. Traditionally, this is ascribed to a Navi Zecharia who lived in the time of Yoash who was killed in the Beit Hamikdash. ...
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Are you allowed to study (not Torah) on Tisha Bi'Av

For example if someone has a big math test on Yud Av, is he allowed to study math (my question was applied to math but goes to learning anything besides Torah) on Tisha Bi'Av?
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“Al n'tilat yadayim” on fast days

On Tisha b'Av and Yom Kippur, we are not supposed to lave our hands. Resultantly, on Tisha b'Av and Yom Kippur, do we say "baruch… n'tilat yadayim" in birchot hashachar?
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Editing Torah on Tisha B'av

Is it a violation of the prohibition to learn Torah on Tisha B'av to edit a Torah publication? The intent of the editor is not to learn, but it ends up happening automatically if he is editing ...
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Is it forbidden to learn Hebrew/Aramaic during Tisha B Av?

Hebrew and Aramaic are languages of Jewish sefarim (religious books) and it is forbidden to learn/read sefarim during Tisha B Av because it gives joy to man to do so. Is it then likewise forbidden to ...
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Permitted to learn Perush Hamilos on Davening on Tisha Bi'Av

If someone learns the simple translation of each word in davening each day. Can he still do it on Tisha Bi'Av? It is either considered learning or not. If it is considered learning then you can't do ...
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Studying mussar and philosophy on tisha b'av

Can one learn mussar on tisha b'av, or how about Kuzari or Moreh Nevuchim? Is it considered to be the study of Torah, which gladdens, or is it, since it is mussar, okay?
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What are you supposed to do on Tisha baAv?

On Tisha baAv you can't eat wash oneself anoint oneself marital relation wearing leather shoes sit on a chair Torah study greeting people with a blessing conducting business going on a ...
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Can a Ba'al Kri'ah review the parshiot that he must lain on Tish'a B'Av?

I understand that we are not supposed to learn Torah, in general from afternoon of Erev Tish'a B'av until after chatzot of Tish'a B'av except for designated areas such as Eicha, Iyov, etc. Does this ...
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Why are Torah study and trips, specifically, banned on the 8th of Av?

The Rama, Orach Chayim 553, says: The practice is that we do not study [Torah] the day before the ninth of Av from midday on, except such matters as are permitted [study material] on the ninth…. ...
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Why do we say the normal Mishnayos after Birkas HaTorah on Tisha BeAv?

After Birkas HaTorah in the morning, we say a Pasuk (VaYedaber ... YeVarechecha ... VaAni Avarachem), a Mishna (Eilu Dvarim SheEin LaHem Shiyur ... VeTalmud Torah) and some Gemara (Eilu Devarim ...
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Reviewing Torah on Tisha Bi'Av

Are you allowed to review Torah that you already learnt before Tisha Bi'Av on Tisha Bi'Av? From Aish.com http://www.aish.com/h/9av/oal/48944076.html: (Is the material permitted to learn on Tisha B&#...
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Do the laws of not learning on tisha b'av also apply to Ches Av?

I heard that on Tisha bi'Av the rules of not learning Torah also apply on Ches Av (the eighth of Av). So I have a few questions on Chess Bi'Av. Is there a source for this This question What can ...
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Are you allowed to wish someone “Gut Mo'ed” on Tish'a B'Av

MB Orach Chayim 454:20 says that you are not allowed to say "She'elat Shalom" Mishnah Brurah commentary (41) says that even "Good morning" is prohibited. Tish'a B'av is called a "mo'ed" in Eicha. ...
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Does the Mechaber, banning meat at seudah mafseket, mean it's okay beforehand?

The mechaber writes that we have the custom one can't eat, during the seudah mafseket, salted meat even over two days and one night. Does that mean that during the nine days it would be permissable?
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How long must clothes be worn before the 9 days for them to count as not fresh?

I've only read "short period" as a time given for how long to wear clothes you're planning on putting on during the 9 days. Is there anything more specific than that? Is there an efficient and ...
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Why don't we say Avinu Malcanu on Tisha B' Av?

Why don't we say Avinu Malcanu on Tisha B' Av? The Artscroll Siddur says "on fast days that tachanun is omitted...", is there any other reason?
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Tisha B'av Fasting in Second Temple Times

The prophet Zechariah 7:3 brings a question he was asked by Jews during the Second Temple as to whether or not they should continue fasting on Tisha B'av, presumably because the Temple had been ...
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“El Male Rachamim” on Tisha b'Av

Typically we do not say "El Male" on days when tachnun would not be said, however, is this true of Tisha b'Av, when we have our national day of aveilut?
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Severe allergies to perfume and dust…laundry during 9 days and chol ha'moed? [closed]

Every year I just suffer rather than finding out if it's permitted. I haven't seen health reasons to permit doing laundry during this time. In addition, I am lodging in a house owned and occupied by a ...
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Promising not to Destroy the World, and “I will Return the World to Water”

After the Mabul (deluge/flood), Hashem promised that he would not destroy the world. Yet we know from Tisha Bav and Yom Kippur's "Asarah Harugay Malchus" (“The Ten Martyrs”) poem that when they were ...
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If you have problems fasting, what should you do on Tishá BeAv? [closed]

Say that, in every 24h fast, you feel extremely nauseated, and then vomit at some point in the final 3 hours. What should you do during a fast like Tishá BeAv? (Once I asked a Rabbi, and he said that ...
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Do we say tikkun chatzos on tisha b'av night?

In my siddur (Shelah, Shaar HaShamayim) it says that tikkun chatzos (specifically tikkun Rachel) is not said on days were tachanun is omitted. On Tisha B'Av we do not say tachanun. However it is hard ...
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Not eating before Tisha B'Av — Better to eat after Shkiah but before nightfall or wait until Tisha B'Av

Someone for whatever reason was not able to eat Erev Tisha B'Av. It came shkia (sunset) and finally he was able to find time or the ability to eat. Is it better for him to eat then during Bein ...
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Preparing laundry prior to Chatzos on 10 Av

May one sort their laundry and load the washing machine prior to Chatzos (midday) on 10 Av of a year where Tisha B'Av is on a Tuesday, so that, that way, they can immediately turn on the machine at ...
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Disparate Zemanim in the same local community

Someone pointed out on a local email list that the ending time for Tish'ah BeAv is listed differently - significantly so - at various institutions in our local community. He noted the following times ...
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Staying to enjoy the unexpected playing of recorded music during the 3 weeks/9 days

Assuming for a moment that one holds that the prohibition of listening to music during the Three Weeks / Nine Days applies to recorded music, if one were in a store that had music playing on the ...
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Heter for shaving during the week of Tisha B'Av for work reasons

Is there any posek who allows shaving during shavua shechal bo (the week in which Tisha B'Av falls, up to Tisha B'Av itself) if, by not shaving, one may lose his job? R' Moshe Feinstein allows shaving ...
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Is it always a good idea to say an extra Shema' if you missed one?

According to Double AA's answer on a related question, "it can't hurt" to say an extra Shema' later if you missed the Zeman (set time) for it. While it may be true to a certain extent that saying ...
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How do those who adovcate chumrah understand this Gemorah (Gitin 55-56)

Because of Kamtza and Bar Kamtza, Jerusalem was destroyed. It happened this way: A certain man had a friend named Kamtza and an enemy called Bar Kamtza. He once made a party and said to his ...
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Will Tisha B'Av be pushed off in the future?

We have a tradition that Tisha B'Av will become a holiday in the time of Moshiach. Will that holiday also be nidcheh if it comes out on Shabbos?
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Correspondence between 365 negative commandments and days of the year?

There are 365 negative commandments which correspond to the days of the (solar) year (see Makos 23b; Tanchuma Ki Seitzeh 2). Apparently the prohibition of Gid HaNasheh (sciatic nerve) corresponds to ...
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Why did the 40th-year Jews think they'd erred about Av? Sanhedrin had declared it

Rashi says that ובשנת ארבעים שנה עשו ולמחר עמדו כולן חיים וכיון שראו כך תמהו ואמרו שמא טעינו בחשבון החדש חזרו ושכבו בקבריהן בלילות עד ליל חמשה עשר וכיון שראו שנתמלאה הלבנה בט"ו ולא מת אחד מהם ידעו ...