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Tachanun or Taḥanun (Hebrew: תחנון "Supplication") is part of Judaism's morning (Shacharit) and afternoon (Mincha) services, after the recitation of the Amidah, the central part of the daily Jewish prayer services.

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Sefardi Tachanun in Ashkenazi Shul (and the converse) - Poresh Min Hatzibbur? If so, what to do?

The title captures the question perfectly. (Many modern*) Sefardi Tachanun procedures are very visibly different from standard Ashkenazi procedures. Ashkenazim fall on their face (Many modern) ...
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Origin of "Shomer Yisrael"

What is the origin of the prayer Shomer Yisrael? Who wrote it, when and where did it first appear? שׁוֹמֵר יִשְׂרָאֵל! שְׁמֹר שְׁאֵרִית יִשְׂרָאֵל, וְאַל יֹאבַד יִשְׂרָאֵל, הָאוֹמְרִים: שְׁמַע ...
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Is it wrong for one to skip Tachanun at Shacharis? [closed]

So i've asked this question before but with different manner. I only really have the kavanah and focus for tachanun at mincha but not really at Shacharis and therefore have trouble deciding wether to ...
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can one recite Tachanun standing?

If one doesn't have a chair available can one recite tachanun standing since he cant do nefillas apayim anyway sitting without a sefer torah as a yachid at home ?
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Reciting Shomer Israel W/short Avinu Malkeinu at end before Va'anachnu lo neida only on fast days?

During Weekdays shacharis tachanun end of tefillah, is Shomer israel/Avinu malkeinu at end before Va'anachnu lo neida only recited on tzom gedalia and other public fasts ? or do you recite it during ...
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If Tachanun is optional to recite, why is it looked down upon when its omitted on a weekday?

During Shacharis, due to time constraints i often only just recite Vidui, and jump to Ashrei 145, Lamenatzeach 20, Uva letzion, and Aleinu - al tirah. I do recite the full Vidui/Tachanun at Mincha ...
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Tachanun on friday and sunday [duplicate]

I heard that in some Chassidic communities they don't say tachanun on Friday morning to prepare for Shabbat and on Sunday morning either to "recover" from Shabbat, is that true? and if this ...
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How to keep up with faster parts of davening

I became more religiously observant nearly 30 years ago, in mid-college. Ever since, I've been living in a Chareidi environment, where the davening is on the slower side (to give you an idea: Weekday ...
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Tachanun on a King / President visiting a city

Would Synagogues say Tachanun when a King or President comes to visit a city or perhaps comes to visit a Synagogue? I couldn’t see anything in Orach Chaim dealing with this issue.
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Nusach Sefard Tachanun solution

Nusach Sefard begins Tachanun with "Elokenu V'Elokai Avoseinu". At times a person begins saying these words as soon as the Shliach Tzibur completes the repetition of Shemona Esrei, and then ...
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Who are the rabbanim of the story of Vehu Rachum?

The Artscroll Siddur records a tradition from the Machzor Kol Bo of three rabbanim who authored the tefillah of Vehu Rachum: Machzor Kol Bo and others record a tradition regarding the authorship of ...
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Remembering One's Sins After Yom Kippur

Should one remember and keep the guilt of his sins after Yom Kippur? If he had previously written them in a book, in order to have the proper mindset during tachanun throughout the year, should the ...
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No tachanun after shkiah?

Many siddurim in my possession indicate one who davens minchah after sunset omits tachanun. What are the sources behind this ?
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Skip Tachanun on the Sunday of Purim Meshulash?

In a situation when Shushan Purim falls out on Shabbat, walled cities (which can't celebrate Purim on Shabbat) read the Megillah and give Matanot Le’Evyonim on Friday, while on Sunday they have their ...
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Praying based on national merit - Early examples

It seems to be a common theme in the prayer service that we ask for our needs basing our requests on the mercy of G-d, and, occasionally, on the merit of our forefathers. Nonetheless, we find some ...
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Skipping viduy of tachanun [closed]

I have found some people who have a minhag to skip the viduy and continue with vehu rachum instead. I have heard a halakha that says you're allowed to do so bediavad. Is there any posek who agrees ...
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Is Tachanun recited in shul when a chattan and an avel are both present?

If a chattan (groom) is present in shul during the week after marriage, the entire minyan does not say Tachanun. However, if an aveil (mourner) is present in shul during his week of shiva, the ...
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Quirks of tachanun

I've seen a couple of little quirks at the beginning of tachanun and I'm looking for sources... They may or may not be related. Just before putting their head down, I've seen some people who give ...
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Chanun V'Rachum vs. Rachum V'Chanun

In the long tachanun of Monday and Thursday (among other places) there is repeated use of Chanun V'Rachum (a phrase which appears in Nach 8 or so times) אֵל טוב וְסַלָּח כִּי אֵל מֶלֶךְ חַנוּן ...
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Tachanun In Sivan

According to an emailed halacha I received, Some have the custom to not say Tachnun until the 12th of Sivan, and in the Diaspora until the 13th of Sivan. Shulchan Aruch w/Mishnah Brurah 494:3, ...
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Skipping Paragraphs in long Tachanun

Although it pains me to ask the question, after davening in many orthodox shuls throughout New York, New Jersey, and Maryland, it seems chazanim often skip parts of והוא רחום (longer Monday/Thursday ...
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Why is chabad not worried about putting their head down when saying "l'david" when the Zohar says its dangerous?

Why is it Chabad's minhag to put their head down when saying "L'david" when the Zohar says its dangerous to "fall on ones face" when reciting it?
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7 Adar, Tachanun and Leap Years

A followup to this question. For those who do not say tachanun on the birth/death anniversary of Moshe Rabbeinu, how do they handle leap years? Do they not say tachanun on the seventh of both months ...
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Should tachanun be said in a mourner's shtiebl?

Many shtiebls are set up as shuls that are part of someone's home. This raises the question as to what is considered a "mourner's home" with regard to saying tachanun. Background: Tachanun is not ...
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Difference between Shacharis and Mincha re:Tachanun if Sandek/Mohel/father is present

If a Sandek, or Mohel or father-of-the-baby are present during Shacharis, then the entire congregation skip Tachanun. If, however, they are present at Mincha, then these individuals do not say ...
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Slow at Full Tachanun - keep going?

I am slower than the shlichei tzibbur in my shul at Full Tachanun (Shacharis Mon, Fri). I usually get about half-way through by the time they start taking the Sefer out. Do I keep going, ignoring the ...
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Criteria for "nefilat apayim"?

According to Mishnah Berurah (OC 131:13, and quoted in this answer), if one is outside the shul, but the door to the shul is open, and from his location he can see the place of the Aron, he should do ...
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Canceling Tachanun for the balance of a month

Based on the premise that we don't say Tachanun for the rest of a month when there are already a majority of days on which we don't say Tachanun (as stated in the Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 131,7 ...
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Making up tachanun

I davened at the early minyan today. After the later minyan (which was already under way by the time we finished Avinu Malkeinu) there is a bris scheduled. Therefore, we did not say tachanun, as per ...
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Nefilat Apayim on arm without tefilin

The prevalent Ashkenazi custom, with regards to nefilat apayim during shacharit is to lean on the arm that one does not wear his tefilin on. However at mincha the custom is to lean on the left arm. ...
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How did shomer Yisroel become daily?

How did show Shomer Israel become part of our daily tachnun? Clearly it happened in the 1800's. Prior to that it was just for slichos and Mondays and Thursdays (see magen avraham תרפה;ב....the very ...
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Is the vicinity of an ark valid for "Nefilat Apayim" (covering the face for Tachanun)?

One afternoon last week it was too hot in the shul, so we davened Mincha just outside the shul on the patio. The shul has an aron Kodesh, and while we were on the patio, and the Aron was visible ...
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Why say tachanun in mincha on 13 Iyar if you won't on 14 Iyar?

Usually one does not say tachanun at mincha before a day when tachanun is not said. The Artscroll siddur says to say tachanun on the 13th of Iyar, the day before Pesach Sheni (the 14th of Iyar), even ...
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Why does Nusach Sefard omit Tachanun during Mincha?

In many, if not all, of the Nusach Sefard synagogues I've prayed at, the synagogue does not say Tachanun during Mincha during regular weekdays. What is the source for this practice?
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Where and how does the Shaliach Tzibbur say Tachanun?

When the Shaliach Tzibbur says Tachanun, should he leave his position and say it sitting down or should he rather stay in position and say it without physically sitting down but in a manner which is ...
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Should a minyan that never recites Tachanun at Mincha say Tzidkatcha Tzedek?

This site states: The minhag of many Chassidish kehilos is not to say tachanun at mincha. This minhag is recorded in many Chassidic and Sefardic sources. A number of explanations are offered: ...
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Clarify the rules for "E-l Erech" and "Lamenatze'ach' (Psalm 20) on non-Tachanun days

I am confused regarding the rules of when to omit E-l Erech Apayim (the paragraph before taking out the Torah) and when to omit Psalm 20 (said after the Torah is returned (Nusach Ashkenaz). My ...
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Tachanun during the mincha before a bris

According to this answer (and a number of other discussions on the web) one does not say tachanun during the mincha on the day before the relevant simcha-day. Would this include a case where a baby ...
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About how often does a mohel say Tachanun?

When a mohel is present in shul, no one in the minyan needs to recite Tachanun. If any reader is a mohel or otherwise would know how to answer this question, "fairly", I'm curious how often the mohel,...
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source for kel erech apayim in tachanun

In nussach sefard in Tachanun after Oshamnu, is the tefillah kel erech apayim atah uva'al horachamin nikraisah. what is the source for this tefillah ?
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Why do we say Tachanun during Adar?

According to this answer, we don't say tachanun on days that are yemei simcha -- days of happiness. But the Talmud (Taanit 29a) says Mishenichnas Adar marbim b'simcha -- once Adar begins we increase ...
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Skipped והוא רחום in Tachanun

If one skipped והוא רחום and the extra paragraphs in Tachanun on Monday and Thursday should he go back to say them if he finished Tachanun or even the rest of Davening?
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Skipping Tachanun - Difference between Chattan vs. Avel

This M.Y. answer says that if a Chattan is in shul, tachanun is skipped. Art Scroll and Birnbaum Siddurim say that Tachanun is skipped in the house of a mourner. However, if the mourner is in shul, ...
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Akeidat Yachid Vs. Akeidat Yitzchak

In the tachanun of Monday and Thursday, we say "ותראה לפניך עקידת יחיד למען ישראל". The binding is referred to as the akeidat yachid (which refers to Yitzchak via Bereishit 22:2 "מה שנעקב יצחק שכתי' ...
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Saying tachanun on a fast day when there is a chatan

Tachanun is not said when there is a Chatan in the minyan. However, on a fast day, Tachanun is usually said with Selichot. So if there is a chatan in a minyan on a fast day, would you say Selichot ...
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What is the source for the requirement to cover one's arm when falling during tachanun? [duplicate]

What is the source for the requirement to cover one's arm when falling during tachanun? Also, what should one do if he has short sleeves?
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Why can't we repent every day?

I am piecing together a few different ideas so I apologize if I misstate any of them. According to the gemara in Shabbat 153a, one should repent a day before his death: (l) (Mishnah - R. Eliezer): ...
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Chazzan forgot to say Tachanun during mincha - how to proceed? [duplicate]

While at shul for mincha the other day, the chazzan began to say Kaddish after finishing *Chazarat Hashat"z' (Shemoneh Esreh repetition). Ata bout the point people answered Yehei Shmei Rabba, people ...
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Why is this phrase flipped between Avinu Malkeinu and Tachanun?

In Avinu Malkeinu, we read, "חָנֵּנוּ וַעֲנֵנוּ כִּי אֵין בָּנוּ מַעֲשִׂים עֲשֵׂה עִמָּנוּ צְדָקָה וָחֶסֶד וְהוֹשִׁיעֵנוּ" be gracious with us and answer us, though we have no worthy deeds; treat us ...
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What is it about Tachanun that we have to skip?

According to the Shulchan Aruch (O"C 131:4, 6-7) there are days on which we don't say Tachanun. In general, it seems that these are "happy" days -- holidays or communal celebrations. But while on ...
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