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Theodical arguments from Bereshit Rabbah 69:5 - why are they rarely if ever used?

According to Bereshit Rabbah 69:5, Avraham, Yitzchak and Yaacov prayed for aging, suffering and sickness, and before this, these conditions did not exist in the human experience. The reasons are given ...
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Why does Hashem, Who is all-merciful, let children get cancer and suffer and die? [duplicate]

Even if there are reasons beyond human comprehension, the seemingly unjustifiable cruelty of letting/making children (and their families!) suffer makes Hashem “look bad” in some people’s eyes. It’s a ...
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Why didn't G-d make us resistant to pain or blows?

Why didn't G-d make us resistant to pain or blows? Keep in mind that prior to the creation of human beings, G-d made angels, who do not suffer from pain or the possibility of losing their physical ...
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Make us happy like the days when You afflicted us?

We say after Shabbat every week: שַׂמְּחֵנוּ כִּימוֹת עִנִּיתָנוּ שְׁנוֹת רָאִינוּ רָעָֽה Make us happy (or let us rejoice) like the days when You afflicted us (or when we were suffering); the years ...
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Seforim on Suffering

Besides sefer Yov and its commentaries, are there any seforim on a jewish understanding of suffering? I'd like to see a book in which there is rabbinic sources and/or insights regarding this in a way ...
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Why are blessings preceded by suffering?

In Torah there are about 6 or 7 people/groups I can think of whose suffering preceded some blessing. The first is Abraham’s prolonged childlessness and his subsequent test to sacrifice his son. The ...
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So much tragedy, so much suffering - WHY?

I am reading about Rabbi Haninah ben Teradion being burned alive, with wet wool stuffed into his body to prolong suffering by the Romans, the deaths of 24,000 students of Rabbi Akiva, the Destruction ...
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Suffering As An Atonement

Is there any source that states explicitly that the יִסּוּרִין, suffering, that a person goes through serves as a כַּפָּרָה, atonement?
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What caused Iyov to "snap"?

In the first couple of chapters of Iyov, many tragedies befall him. However, he doesn't lose faith. And even when his own body is afflicted, he stays faithful (2:9-10): "His wife said to him, “...
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Is the Shechina present when a person is mourning or distraught?

It's said the Shechinah is present only where there's joy (Tractate Shabbat 30b). Yet we are also taught to cry to Hashem during times of suffering, depression, sorrow, mourning, etc. Is the Shechinah ...
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Jewish theodicy on natural evil [duplicate]

Serious question. I understand the free will explanation for why God allows people to do evil things. But why does God allow what is classically called "natural evil"? For example, why does ...
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Deep commentaries on the 2 stories of Rabbi Akiva laughing

The Talmud at the end of the tractate Makkos (24a-b) relates 2 stories about Rabbi Akiva laughing in the face of suffering. I was able to find nice commentaries explaining the simple ideas behind the ...
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Animal Suffering and The Cruelty of Nature

Whilst the world's ecosystem and natural phenomena are magnificently complex and awe-inspiring, it is undoubtedly a system that is brutal - 'red in tooth and claw'. The laws of nature we can observe ...
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Can you tell someone that his troubles are caused by his sins?

The Talmud tells us not to tell someone who is suffering that his troubles are caused by his sins: If torments are afflicting a person, if illnesses are afflicting him, or if he is burying his ...
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Can a person free himself from suffering?

Berachos 5b teaches: רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַבָּא חֲלַשׁ. עָל לְגַבֵּיהּ רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אֲמַר לֵיהּ: חֲבִיבִין עָלֶיךָ יִסּוּרִין? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לֹא הֵן וְלֹא שְׂכָרָן. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: הַב לִי יְדָךְ. ...
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Berachot 5a - What is R. Yochanan's objection?

In Berachot 5a we have the following exchange between Reis Lakish and R. Yochanan: אמר רבי שמעון בן לקיש כל העוסק בתורה יסורין בדילין הימנו שנאמר ובני רשף יגביהו עוף ואין עוף אלא תורה שנאמר התעיף ...
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Invalidating Jews as the Suffering Servant [closed]

I saw this post in which a rabbi explains why Is. 53 cannot be talking about Jesus. The essential line is This tells us that someone who is widely respected BEFORE the arm of the Lord is revealed – ...
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Source of a quote about the value of mitzvot involving pain

This quote is attributed to the Yerushalmi: One mitzvah involving pain is worth a hundred mitzvot that do not. Do you have the exact reference? Is this the only place this thought is expressed?
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How does Rav Saadia Gaon account for the suffering of children?

I came across this excerpt from Rav Saadia Gaon on reincarnation (on mesora.org, where they cite it as Saadia Gaon: “The Book of Beliefs and Opinions” “Refutation of Reincarnation” Yale Judaica Series,...
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Animal in excruciating pain on Shabbos: What lenient opinions exist?

Are there any respected poskim who would permit killing (with a shinui) a bug or other small creature who is clearly suffering terribly on Shabbos? If not Shabbos, what about Yom Tov? If not killing,...
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Ramban - Every sin deserves more suffering than Iyov received

Where does the Ramban say that in reality we deserve more suffering than Iyov received for every sin we do and it is only because of Hashem's incredible mercy that we don't get anywhere near what we ...
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"Die, but don't transgress": what about torture?

There is a principle in Jewish law that there are three transgressions that should not be committed, even on pain of death: murder, "sexual immorality" (a reference, presumably, to the sorts of ...
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Which Chachamim or great figures in our tradition got divorced? What is said about these marriages? [closed]

I have read that Abraham gave Hagar a divorce but the source was disreputable and I could not find a reputable one. The context here is that I am learning Iyov and thinking about the misfortunes that ...
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What about afflictions that don't match the list in Brachos?

Brachos 5a states: אמר רבא ואיתימא רב חסדא, "אם רואה אדם שיסורין באין עליו יפשפש במעשיו, שנא' ,(איכה ג, מ) 'נחפשה דרכינו ונחקורה ונשובה עד ה'.' פשפש ולא מצא יתלה בבטול תורה שנאמר (תהלים צד, יב) '...
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Understanding the Gemara in Brachos about afflictions

Brachos 5a states: אמר רבא ואיתימא רב חסדא, "אם רואה אדם שיסורין באין עליו יפשפש במעשיו, שנא' ,(איכה ג, מ) 'נחפשה דרכינו ונחקורה ונשובה עד ה'.' פשפש ולא מצא יתלה בבטול תורה שנאמר (תהלים צד, יב) '...
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Does Moshiach bear our sins, in any sense?

I know 'bear' is vague, but I have always been upset by the popular Jewish singer, Mordechai ben David's song, 'Yerusholayim Our Home'. It contains the line, 'Suffering for years, from all our sins ...
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Prohibition of causing mitzta'er on Yom Tov

I have heard about a Biblical prohibition on causing oneself to suffer during Yom Tov. The example that always comes up for this mitzvah is the permission not to sleep in the sukkah if it causes one ...
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Source: God only gives people what they can handle [duplicate]

I have heard it quoted many times in a variety of contexts the following words: "Hashem only gives people what they can handle" or "Hashem never gives people more than they can handle." I assumed the ...
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Purpose of Gilgulei Sheleg (rolling in snow)

what is the earliest source of the practice of gilgulei sheleg (rolling in snow)? also, what is the purpose of this and why specifically snow instead of cold water or whatever .
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Why is an oppressor's wife/children punished?

In parashas Mishpatim (Shemot 22:21-23) the pesukim read כָּל־אַלְמָנָ֥ה וְיָת֖וֹם לֹ֥א תְעַנּֽוּן׃ אִם־עַנֵּ֥ה תְעַנֶּ֖ה אֹת֑וֹ כִּ֣י אִם־צָעֹ֤ק יִצְעַק֙ אֵלַ֔י שָׁמֹ֥עַ אֶשְׁמַ֖ע צַֽעֲקָתֽוֹ׃ ...
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