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Questions tagged [shmini-atzeres]

Holiday on 22 Tishrei

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Hypothetical Halacha — Is “Leishayv Basukkah” an interruption of a brocha on Shmini Ateres (if said by mistake)?

This case happened to me over the past Shemini Atzeres, and even though it's over now, I was still curious about the halacha. I was so used to saying Laysheiv Basukkah the entire Sukkos, so on the ...
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Shemini Atzeret - a “Regel Bifney Atzmo” dispute

There seems to be some disagreement about the nature of Shemini Atzeret and the implications of its being called a "Regel Bifnei Atzmo" (a stand-alone festival). But I assume that, because there are ...
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Which sources deal with someone who said “bayom Chag haSukkos Hazeh” in “Yaaleh veyovo” in Grace after Meals on Shemini Atzeres

In Grace after Meals on Shemini Atzeres, someone said “bayom Chag haSukkos Hazeh” instead of “bayom Shemini Chag Hoatzeres Hazeh” in “Yaaleh veyovo”. My LOR told me that a man has to go back whereas a ...
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Saying Shemini Chag Haatzeret Haze in Shemona Esrei

Why do certain communities say shemini chag haatzeret haze and not chag shemini atzeret haze like all the other festivals (chag hasukkot, chag hapesach). Why is the word chag in the middle of the name?...
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Do you say mashiv haruach in shacharis Shemini Atzeres if tzibbur already did it in mussaf?

If one is davening at home on the first day of Shemini Atzeres and he has not davened Shacharis yet, but the tzibbur has already davened Mussaf and said mashiv haruach, should he insert mashiv haruach ...
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Connection between the three Atzeret?

I noticed that there are three moments called Atzeret. The seventh day of Pesach Shavuot Shemini Atzeret But what is the connection between these three specific moments?: Although all three are ...
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Atzeret to gather or store?

Atzeret (עצרת) comes from the root עצר which means (nifal, as a verb) to stop, be delayed or to be arrested. But I also heard that R.S.Hirsch explains it means 'to collect, to store or to gather' as ...
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Why is a suka forbidden for other uses all the eighth day, but an esrog is permitted after use?

The Talmud Bavli, Suka 46 amud 2, cites a difference of opinion as to how long an esrog and a suka are muktzim l'mitzvosehem, set aside for their respective mitzvos and forbidden for use for other ...
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What are Hakafos Shniyos?

In Israel on motzei Shemini Atzeres/Simchas Torah, many yeshivos, shuls etc. do "Hakafos Shniyos". What do they do exactly? Where does this custom come from and what's the idea behind it?
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beyom or bayom hashemini Chag Haatzeret hazeh?

Every siddur, machzor, and bentcher that I've noticed writes בְּיוֹם, with a sheva, and then divides up into different cases (חג המצות/חג השבועות/חג הסוכות/השמיני חג העצרת, with additional options in ...
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Why is there any debate regarding sitting in a Succah on Shmini Atzeret outside Israel? [duplicate]

A 2nd day of Yom Tov is observed outside of Israel because of sfeika d'yoma - (doubt which day Rosh Hodesh was declared, and thus, which day is the 1st day of the holiday.) The Torah states that one ...
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Should a Jew from outside Israel who is visiting Israel for Sukkot eat in the Sukkah on Shemini Atseret?

Halachipedia writes that Outside Israel, on the eighth day of Sukkot (first day of Shemini Atseret), one should eat in the Sukkah without a Bracha of Leshev BaSukkah. The source for this is ...
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Does everyone say the piyut addressing Af beri?

According to the opinion that Machnisei Rachamim should not be said as we don't pray to angels, is there a problem to address Af Beri? I haven't heard of anyone skipping that piyut.
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Is there a malach taking care of rain or not?

The Gemara in Taanis 2a mentions rain as one of the items that Hashem never gives the key of which over to a messenger. אמר ר' יוחנן ג' מפתחות בידו של הקב''ה שלא נמסרו ביד שליח ואלו הן מפתח של ...
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Why does Chabad do hakafot erev Shemini Atzeret

Growing up, I typically went to a Chabad and I have noticed that they have hakafot on erev Shemini Atzeret (meaning the night of Shemini Atzeret). What is the reason and why do they do this?
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What is the last day to shake the lulav in Diaspora?

Do we shake the lulav on shemini atzeret or simhat torah for folks living in diaspora?
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Lulav and Sukkah on Shemini Atzeres [duplicate]

If you have the minhag to eat in the Sukkah on Shmini Atzeres, why is there no minhag to take the lulav (without a bracha) on Shmini Atzeres?
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On what day exactly should one read the added phrases prayers?

When praying the Amidah at the second prayer of "Atá Gibor..." during summer one adds, "Morid hatal" between Pesach and Shemini Atseret; whereas in winter during Shemini Atseret and Pesach one adds, "...
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When did it come about that Shmini Atzeret became Simchat Torah?

The Torah calls last day of Sukkos Shmini-Atzeres (or techically a separate holiday (PZ"R KS"B)) but at some point in time it became Simchat-Torah (in Israel) or the 2nd day in Chutz L'aretz. When did ...
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What is the last meal during the period of sukkot, and the days following, for which sefaradim are required to sit in the sukkah?

What is the last meal during the period of sukkot, and the days following, for which sefaradim are required to sit in the sukkah? There are different minhagim with this issue. Which minhag do ...
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What does Tosfos 46B mean by “for the sake of the sukkah”?

Tosafos Sukkah 46B talks of the rabbis making a decree that one cannot eat the esrog. Tosfos says that in Eretz Yisrael, the decree is not made on account of the sukkah. Whereas in the diaspora, the ...
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Bircas HaMazon when starting to eat on Hoshanah Rabbah and finishing on Shmini Etzeres

A person eating a seudah on Hoshanah Rabbah wanted to continue eating his seudah when Shmini Etzeres already started. He was "pores mappah", made kiddush and continued to eat. Now, after a meal eaten ...
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What are we “celebrating” on Shmini Etzeres?

According to the Gemorah in Sukkah Daf 48a Shmini Etzeres is a Chag in and of itself. However what exactly is the "chag" of Shmini Etzeres. Sukkos we are commemorating the Anei HaKavod, Pesach is ...
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Why doesn't Tefilat Geshem have a verse referring to Miriam?

The "Tefilat Geshem" ("Prayer for Rain") recited on Shemini 'Atzeret contains six verses. Each verse refers to a different person (except the last, which refers to a nation) and makes various ...
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Mashiv HaRuach - V'Sain (veten) Tal Umatar

Why do we start saying Mashiv HaRuach on Shemini Atzeres yet we do not say V'Sain Tal Umatar until Dec 4 / Dec 5 (In Chutz L'Aretz)? Why should they not be on the same day when they are similar ...
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Why don't those outside of Israel shake Lulav on Shmini Atzeres?

If one holds that Jews living outside of Israel should sit in a sukkah because of Sfeika Dyoma (We aren't sure what day it is), then why shouldn't we shake lulav and esrog? Worst comes to worst we are ...
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Why do we say “Shmini Atzeres Hachag Hazeh”?

On all Yomim Tovim we say "Chag Hassukos Hazeh" or "Chag Hamatzos Hazeh" but on Shmini Atzeres/Simchas Torah we say "Shmini Atzeres Hachag Hazeh" going in a different order. Why do we change the order ...
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Why do we have different customs for the second day of Shmini Atzeret in the diaspora?

In the diaspora, where two days of yomim tovim are celebrated, the second day is typically an exact repetition of the first day. We say the same prayers, make a second Seder on Pesach, make kiddush ...
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Not sitting in the Sukkah on Shemini Atzeres

Shouldn't the obligation to sit in the Sukkah also fall into the category of Sefeika D'yoma? If so why do some not eat in the Sukkah on Shemini Atzeres?
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Hakafos on Shmini Atzeres

Out of Eretz Yisroel there are those that do Hakafos on Shmini Atzeres at night and some that even do it by day. Mostly I think it is by the Chasidim. Does anyone know of any Yeshivish or non ...