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What is the relationship between saying the 13 Middot and accompanying piyyuṭim?

During seliḥot, we* interweave saying piyyuṭim with the recitation of the 13 middot. This is thematically sensible, since the recitation of the 13 middot is supposed to effect God's forgiveness1 2, ...
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Difference of Selichot timing [duplicate]

Common Nusach Ashkenaz is to recite the first Selichot at "midnight" and all the other Selichot prior to Shacharit. Why is there this timing difference? Why not have all the Selichot at midnight or ...
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Why Ashrei in Selichot?

In most Ashkenazi versions of the selichot* for Elul and Yomim Noraim, the day's selichot begin with Ashrei**. This seems rather weird, especially considering that some (including Jekkisch authorities ...
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Why isn't birchas hatorah printed before Selichos? [duplicate]

Why is birchas hatorah not printed before Ashrei in Selichos siddurim, given the requirement for this brocha before quoting verse (see Selichot and blessing on Torah study)?
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Selichot and blessing on Torah study

There are at least two views on the placement of the blessings on Torah study in the morning prayer. German rite places it right before the verses about the laver, and they don't really consider Torah ...
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Who opposes saying the Piyut מכניסי רחמים?

There is a long standing debate surrounding the piyut "מכניסי רחמים" which is said during selichot (words found here). The piyut is addressed to angels and the text aims to elicit the attributes of ...
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Recommendations for explanations of selichos

The selichos for ashkenazim are quite difficult to understand. Are there any peirushim on selichos for ashkenazim? (I know there are different versions, I'm willing to take a peirush on any version. ...
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Why is there a difference of the position of Selichot?

In name of my astute oldest son (Yes, as a father, I am biased!): Why during most fast days is Selichot said after the repetition of the Amidah, but during 10 days of Teshuva, they are said before ...
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Shuls that say Hungarian Selichos?

Are there any shuls (I'm preferably looking for shuls in Yerushalayim) that say the Hungarian(/Bohemian/Moravian/Silesian) selichos for the Yemei HaSelichos? (This is the selichos that is found in ...
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Shuls that say selichos for Kaf Sivan

Does anyone know of shuls that say selichos for Kaf Sivan (20th Sivan) (see here for more information)? Looking preferably for shuls in Yerushalayim.
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Why does the paytan refer to the Thirteen Attributes as “Thirteen words”?

There is a piyut which is said by Minhag Lita on the fifth (sometimes, in some customs, on the fourth) weekday of the Aseres Yimei Teshuvah; by Nusach Sefard on the second Monday of BeHa”B; and by ...
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Yom Kippur Ashkenazi Selichos

Does anyone know where I can find online or printed Yom Kippur Ashkenazi slichos for Shachrit Mincha and Musaf during chazarot hashatz?
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Selichoth with Tallith and Tefillin

Assuming one is saying selichoth during the time of tallith and tefillin (e.g. ~6AM in the greater New York metropolitan area), should one put them on first or wait till after selichoth? Does it make ...
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Recommended changes to the text of selichos when you say them at the “wrong” time

Some of the piyutim in selichos assume that you're saying them at the ideal time - before Amud Hashachar (for example, at the end of selicha #70 שחרנוך קדם עמוד השחר). Many people don't make it at ...
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Why does the chazzan start ashrei in selichot earlier?

In the Artscroll prayer, the point at which the shaliach tzibbir begins reading aloud is marked by little dots. During the year, the Ashrei prayer has little dots before "tehillat hashem". But in the ...
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Selichot when a mohel, baal brit or sandak are in the shul

Is there anything that must be skipped, such as viduy, in Selichot when a Baal brit, Mohel or Sandak are present just as it is done in viduy Shachrit or Mincha in such a case?
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Adjust the selicho “מַשְׂאַת כַּפַּי" when the kehillo is not fasting on Yom Kippur Koton?

Related: Who observes Yom Kippur Katan, and how? In the mincha service of Yom Kippur Koton, the selicho “מַשְׂאַת כַּפַּי” is said: 1 חזן מַשְׂאַת כַּפַּי מִנְחַת עֶרֶב רְצֵה נָא בְכֹשֶׁר, ...
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What selichot do Ashkenazi Jews say?

I am looking for a brief list (with some English, not Hebrew-only) of which selichot Ashkenazim say, on which days. If I understand correctly, most Modern Orthodox Ashkenazi Jews basically follow ...
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Selichos in Shachris Mussaf and Mincha of Yom Kippur [duplicate]

The Tur O.C. 620 quotes from his father the Rosh (Yoma siman 19, 20) various practices about saying Selichos on Yom Kippur. These are quoted from Geonic responsa and from the Raaviah. Yet almost no ...
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Can one say the fast-day selichos before the morning prayers?

There seem to be two sorts of selichos: (1) those in Elul and the 10 days of Repentance and (2) the selichos for fast days. Type (1) are typically said before all the morning prayers and type (2) ...
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Selichot on Yom Kippur

Although quite many machzorim omit it, but there are lengthy selichot composed for all services on Yom Kippur. Is it only an Ashkenazi custom?
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Davening Netz or Selichos

If a person has the opportunity of davening netz, but doing so would require putting off the recitation of selichos (since it's nearly netz), does the fulfillment of davening in the optimal way ...
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selichot on yom hakkipurim

Why in the past 150+ years did ashkenazim stop reciting the majority of selichot at shacharit, mussaf, and mincha of yom hakkipurim and only start selichot from the psukim before the chatanu or shma ...
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Origins of Musical Slichos

I recently saw a sign in my community advertising in a (Orthodox) Shul for a musical accompanied Slichos (with instruments) on Leil Slichos. When did such a practice originate? Was such a practice ...
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is it possible to have slichos without avinu malkeinu?

my friend and i were complaining last night about how long davening would be this morning, 17 tamuz. since its a fast day, theres slichos and leining and a lot of stuff (it actually wasn't all that ...
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Saying tachanun on a fast day when there is a chatan

Tachanun is not said when there is a Chatan in the minyan. However, on a fast day, Tachanun is usually said with Selichot. So if there is a chatan in a minyan on a fast day, would you say Selichot ...
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Are there texts where the author describes how he wishes to actively arrange his own demise?

A selicho in Nusach Ashkenaz for 10th Teves starts אזכרא מצוק אשר קראני and contains a phrase, "לו חץ בְלִבִי יָרִיתִי" - - "would that I could shoot an arrow through my heart." This seems an ...
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What about “if as a slave” in selichot?

On Rosh Hashana, after the shofar blowing during the Musaf repetition, we say "Hayom Harat Olam." In it, we consider 2 possibilities of how Hashem might deal with us -- "im k'vanim" (if as children) ...
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משיח צדקך vs. דוד עבדך

After viduy during the Yamim Noraim selichot, we have several paragraphs quoting pesukim about teshuva. The second one starts with משיח צדקך אמר לפניך On Yom Kippur, this is changed to ודוד ...
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What is the source or rationale for the sins listed in the Ashamnu?

The sins listed in the Ashamnu do not seem to be all inclusive or exhaustive. Why these sins and not others?
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What defines a שלמונית?

According to the Artscroll Selichot in the introduction, a שלמונית is "a piyut composed exclusively of quatrains, or four-lined stanzas." This definition fits most of the selichot, maybe 75%, but ...
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Thinking behind an unusual translation of the last word of Ashamnu?

There is a strikingly unusual translation in The Artscroll Selichos Siddur1. In several translations I have seen over the years, the last words of "Ashamnu", "תָּעִינוּ, תִּיעְתָּעְנוּ" are ...
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Saying Selichos on fast days?

Say the is a man who chooses to fast on Bahab, where Selichos are said in between Shemoneh Esrei and Tachanun. Let's say he finishes Shemoneh Esrei and sees that he only has 15 minutes before he goes ...
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Talking during Selichos

Is talking allowed during Selichos? Of course, I'd assume it's a very serious moment and people should just joke around, but what if someone had to tell his friend something? I really have 2 ...
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Order of Shema Koleinu in selichot

In different Artscroll siddurim, I count no less than 3 different orderings of Shema Koleinu. The first version is the one I'm most familiar with, so I'll mark changes in the other two with reference ...
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Is Tefillin worn during the Three Weeks of Tammuz?

BS''D The Three Weeks are 3 weeks in Tammuz leading up to Tisha B'Av. During those weeks we add Selichos to our morning and afternoon prayers. My question is this: do we wear tefillin during these ...
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Were the 8th and 9th of Teves once fasts?

In slichos this morning I noticed a mention of the 8th and 9th of Teves also being fasts. Were these three days ever fasts all at once or were these fasts independently observed and replaced each time ...
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How to understand the first selicho for Asoro B'Teves

I do not understand the first selicho (in the Rosenfeld edition, p 343) for Asoro B'Teves. The first line reads, “I remember the distress that befell me; three blows he inflicted on me this month.” ...
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Why would God forsake us when we are old?

In the Shema Koleinu prayer that we say during selichot, one of the lines goes like this: אל תשליכנו לעת זקנה, ככלות כוחנו אל תעזבנו Do not cast me away in the time of my old age; when my ...
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If you're short on time or came late to shul, which paragraphs of the selichot should you recite? (sefardic version)

If you come late to shul and need to catch up while the congregation is finishing selihot or has already started shacharit, which paragraphs of the selichot should you recite? I would like answers for ...
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When to say selichot in a minyan that doesn't

Note: This question is practical, however, my rav is not capable of answering it from his own experience, due to the nature of mainstream Orthodox kehillot in the US. According to Western Ashkenazi ...
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Why isn't the miracle of Channukah mentioned in Selichot?

In the selichot service, we have a prayer which lists the historic times when Hashem answered prayers (even implicit ones). The "mi she'ana" prayer starts with Avraham on Har Hamoriah and moves ...
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Slichos, netz and nusach [closed]

A person who is ashkenaz (father ashkenaz, mother sephardi) has the habit of praying netz with the only minyan in his area that does, and it is a sephardi minyan. In order to not be different than the ...
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Why begin selichot on a Sunday rather than on a date?

We ashkenaz start selichot on a Sunday. Sunday is a day of the week. Usually we start events on a given day of a given month (e.g., rosh hodesh, rosh hashanna), or after a given number of days (e.g.,...
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When do sefardim begin reciting selihot?

Since rosh hodesh Elul is a mini-holiday do you need to wait till the day after rosh hodesh or do sefardim begin saying selihot on the first of Elul?
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Why does the leader wear a talis on the first night of s'lichos in a Chabad synagogue?

In Chabad-Lubavitch synagogues, it is customary that anyone who would not wear a talis normally does not do so just because he's leading/representing the congregation. The only exception of which I'm ...
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Prayer of Avraham Avinu at Mount Moriah

On Yom Kippur and in Selichos we pray "The One who answered Avraham Avinu's prayer on Mount Moriah, should answer us". "מי שענה לאברהם אבינו בהר המוריה הוא יעננו". What did Avraham pray for at Mount ...
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Why is there no clear Chabad custom regarding Tzom G'dalya s'lichos: early morning or during shacharis?

In the 2005/5765 Kehot edition of סליחות על־פי מנהג חב״ד/Slichos appears part of a letter by the last Lubavitcher rebbe with no date on it. It reads, in part: לא שמעתי הוראה בסדר סליחות ליום זה (...
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Selichot origins

In what year (CE) did saying selichot in Elul begin? In what year were they made a standard addition to prayer books? Looking for an academic answer, not the yeshivahish one. And did Sephardim start ...
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How long to stay bent in Vidui for Selichos

My Artscroll Selichos says, right after Shema Koleinu: During the recitation of the וידוי, Confession, stand with head an body slightly bowed, in submissive contrition. How long does one need to ...