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Questions tagged [maseches-shabbos]

The first masechet in Seder Moed

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Anyone who says these people sinned is mistaken. For real?

The Gemara (Talmud Bavli Shabbos 55b-56b) relates that several Biblical figures who, from the text itself, seemed to have sinned, in reality did not. These statements take the form of "כל האומר פלוני ...
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How could Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai eat from the carob tree?

The gemarah (Shabbat 33b) states that when Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai and his son Rav Elazar were hiding in a cave a carob tree miraculously sprouted from which they ate. How could they eat from this ...
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Why was שמאי holding a ruler?

The Bavli, Shabas 31 amud 1, has two stories in which a gentile came to Shamay asking to be converted to Judaism, upon which Shamay "pushed him with the construction cubit in his hand". Rashi explains ...
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Is the Story About Members of Beis Shammai Killing Members of Beis Hillel True?

The Yerushalmi Talmud at Shabbos 1:4 has a mysterious passage speaking of a time when Beis Shammai literally violently out-dueled Beis Hillel: Mishna: These are the laws they said in the attic of ...
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Do angels have jealousy?

In a famous Midrash in Shab. 87a-b, the angels object to the Torah being given to humans, until Moshe proves that it is only relevant to humans because of their nature. In one example, he asks ...
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What happened to Rabbi Akiva's money?

The Gemara in Nedarim (50a) lists six sources of wealth from which Rabbi Akiva became exceedingly wealthy, including half of Ben Kalba Savua's money (Kesuvos, 63a). Rashi on Bechoros (58a) maintains ...
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Is the Gemara (Shabbos 116b) quoting the New Testament?

The Gemara in Shabbos (116b) seems to have two quotes from the New Testament, but I'm not sure. ברא וברתא כחדא ירתון - sons and daughters should inherit together and אנא לא למיפחת מן אורייתא ...
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Is one allowed to light a candle which has oil on top and water underneath on Erev Shabbos?

The gemara Shabbos 47b says that even on Erev Shabbos one may not place a vessel with water in it under a candle in order that any sparks emitted by the flame should fall into the water, because it is ...
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Why did the rich Gentile buy a pearl?

In the story of Yosef Mokir Shabbat, Yosef is a Jew who honors Shabbat above all, and ends up becoming very rich because of it. There was a very rich Gentile who was told that all of his wealth would ...
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Why is there no decree against bathing in Chamei Teverya?

Gemara Shabbos says that originally one was allowed to bathe on Shabbos in pre-heated bath-houses. However, (in short) due to the fact that the bath-house directors would violate Shabbos (by heating ...
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Why are Chazal asking if words are spelled with א or ע?

In Shabbos 77a-77b, Chazal ask about the spelling of a series of words, questioning whether the words are spelled with an alef - as in גראינין - or with an ayin - as in גרעינין. Wasn't ayin vocalized ...
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No More Zechuth Avoth?

The Gemara (Bab. Shab. 55a) discusses when Zechuth Avoth ceased. I am aware of several opinions in Tosafoth that it ended for wicked people, or it ended for everyone but the very righteous or it ended ...
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Why does the Mishnah use the terms poor person and homeowner when discussing carrying on Shabbat?

This first Mishna in Shabbat (2a) describes the transfer of an item from a private domain to a public domain. The Mishna describes the individuals involved in this transfer as העני עומד בחוץ ובעל ...
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Why do women wear ponytail elastics on Shabas?

So I was studying the start of Bame Isha in the Bavli (Shabas 57), and it seems a woman can't wear a tight strap or string in her hair outside (of an eruv) on Shabas (lest she remove it out of doors ...
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G-d's Divine Presence vs Omnipresence?

In Shabbat 12b, G-d is called the Omnipresent several times, implying to me that G-d is present everywhere. But then it says this: אין מלאכי השרת מכירין בלשון ארמי שאני חולה דשכינה עמו "...
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Sukkos and Chanukah Connection

The Gemara in Shabbos 21b gives an explanation for Beis Shammai's opinion that one should count down candles throughout Chanukah that it's just like the karbanos of Sukkos which also counted down. ...
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Is a Sfardi ש incorrect according to this Gemara?

In Masechet Shabbat 104a, it talks about the shapes of the letters, and meaning behind it. One thing it says is: ומאי טעמא שיקרא אחדא כרעיה קאי ואמת מלבן לבוניה? And what is the reason that [...
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Source for “Bein Ish L'Ishto” in Nusach Ari

After the morning bracha on the torah, we say "אלו דברים שאין להם שיעור". The source for this text is a combination of the first mishna of Peah, and some additions from the bottom of Shabbat 127a. I ...
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Why 40 minus 1 - why not just say 39 Melachot?

In describing the Melachos of Shabbos, the Mishna in Shabbos 73a says that there are "40-1" Melachos. Why not say 39? Side note: There are some answers as to why Malkus is also described that way, ...
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How do we know that Elisha baal kenafayim had a clean body?

The gemarah says that to wear tefillin a person needs to have a clean body like Elisha baal kenafayim (shabbat 49a). How does the gemara know that Elisha had a clean body?
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Does a Shli'ach for carrying adopt the sender's designation of the item?

Mishnah Shabbos 10,1 says about מלאכת הוצאה: "הַמַּצְנִיעַ לְזֶרַע וּלְדֻגְמָא וְלִרְפוּאָה, וְהוֹצִיאוֹ בְּשַׁבָּת, חַיָּב בְּכָל שֶׁהוּא. וְכָל אָדָם אֵין חַיָּב עָלָיו אֶלָּא כְשִׁעוּרוֹ.: " ...
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Why isn't it considered Borer to use a spoon to take cholent from a cholent pot?

There are three requirements in Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 319 to separate food (or other needed articles) from a mixture on Shabbos without it being a melacha of borer. Good from the bad. With one’s ...
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Why did the angels object to the Torah being given to Moshe – what did the angels think?

The well-known Gemoro Shabbos 88b reports the angels protesting against HKB”H giving the Torah to Israel. HKB”H tells Moshe to answer the angels and Moshe shows that the Torah is only applicable to ...
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Why does שבת דף לז ע״א reject a valid proof?

The Bavli, Shabas 37 amud 1, wonders about the permissibility of placing a pot of food adjacent to a stove-oven (rather than atop or in it) when the stove-oven has good fuel in it that has not been ...
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Proof from Arvos Moav to Har Sinai regarding who was there

גמרא שבת קמו עמוד א ישראל שעמדו על הר סיני פסקה זוהמתן גוים שלא עמדו על הר סיני לא פסקה זוהמתן אמר ליה רב אחא בריה דרבא לרב אשי גרים מאי אמר ליה אף על גב דאינהו לא הוו מזלייהו הוו דכתיב (דברים ...
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Alternative Approaches to Prophetic Follow Through

This question discusses differences between positive and negative prophecy. The mentioned idea states that, while positive prophecy will always occur, negative prophecy may be negated by repentance. ...
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Jerusalem was only destroyed because of these 8 things - how?

In Masechet Shabbat 119b, it brings 8 statements saying "Jerusalem was only destroyed because x". Each time, x changes. How can it say that Jerusalem was only destroyed for one particular thing - 8 ...
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Why the different wording for the three proofs atop שבת דף מ ע״א?

The Bavli, Shabas 40 amud 1, cites a disagreement between Rav and Sh'muel. It then brings three proofs to Sh'muel's view. Each proof quotes what appears AFAICT to be a b'raysa, and each proof is ...
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Why was Shimshon's fourth response to Delilah worse than the third?

When Delilah asked Shimshon where his miraculous strength came from, he gave four responses: tie me up with seven moist ropes no, they have to be NEW, THICK ropes put seven of my hairs into a loom ...
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Apartment buildings higher than the shul

Shabbat 11a states that a city in which houses (but not towers or castles/fortresses [unsure about the translation]) are built higher than the synagogue will eventually be destroyed. ואמר רבא בר ...
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How could (or why did) Raba follow Rav's stringencies but not his leniencies?

Eruvin 6 amud 2 says someone who follows the stringencies of Bes Shamay and of Bes Hilel is a fool walking in darkness: rather, it says, one should follow the one or the other, both when it is lenient ...
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Why is Joseph's pit mentioned amid all the Chanukah stuff in tractate Shabas?

In the middle of a lengthy discussion about Chanukah, the Bavli (the beginning of Shabas 22) sticks in this seemingly unrelated passage: And R. Kahana said: R. Nasan b. Minyome exegeted in the name ...
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The mishna says carrying in an unusual way is permitted but we apparently don't follow that; what changed?

The mishna on Shabbat 92a says that one is prohibited from carrying in his right or left hand, in his lap, or on his shoulder, because that's how the mishkan was carried, but he can carry in an ...
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Yerushalayim City of Gold

What is the origin of the concept of Yerushalayim being a "City of Gold"? It is the name and theme of a famous Israeli song from the 1960s, and I always assumed it was either from that song, or that ...
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If dipping was common, why does Mah Nishtana suggest otherwise?

The Gemara (Shabbat 111a) mentions "טיבול", literally "dipping", which Rashi explains is the meal, which featured lots of dipping. In the Pesach classic, it says "on all other nights we do not dip ...
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Kiddush written on the sukkah

I've seen canvas sukkot that have kiddush printed on the walls. Can you use the text to say kiddush? Generally we can't benefit from the sukkah walls. For decorations, you can make a stipulation ...
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“This is R. M'nachem.” So? (שבת עה ע״ב)

The Bavli, Shabas 75 amud 2, quotes from a tosefta as follows: If he wrote a single large letter, in whose space there's room to write two, he's exempt [from offering a korban chatas]. If he erased ...
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Help me find a source for glossing “sefer” (in Shabbat 14a) as “Torah, Nevi'im, and Ketuvim”

In Shabbat 14a we find a discussion about the Rabbinic enactment that a book (sefer) renders one's hands unclean (which is itself discussed in the Mishnah Yadayim 3:5). Long ago I found a source (...
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Woman going out on Shabbath with a “Moch”

The Gemara (שבת, פ׳ במה בהמה) has lengthy discussions about animals going out with covers tied to their udders or other extremities, and repeatedly (briefly) mentions a Zav wearing a sac to catch his ...
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Why must not we cry out/make petitions in Shabbat? (Shabbat 12a)

Why we must not cry out/make petitions in Shabbat? (Shabbat 12a) Our Rabbis taught: If one enters [a house] to visit a sick person [on the Sabbath], he should say, 'It is the Sabbath, when one ...
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Why try to make friends with a bread recipient's mother?

Bavli, Shabas 10 amud 2, has (in my own translation): And Rava b. Machseya said R. Chama b. Guria said Rav said, "One who gives a gift to his friend must inform him.…" … Raban ...
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Who was the “Tana Dvei Rabbi Yishmael”?

What are the teachings labeled "Tana Dvei Rabbi Ishmael"? Are they Braisos or Amoraic teachings? On one hand, on Shabbos 26b we find it arguing on Rabbi Shimon ben Elazar (a Tana). On the other ...
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Delousing on Shabbat (- Mishna, Shabbat 1:3)

In the Mishna, Shabbat 1:3, it states (amongst other things) that one should not delouse one's garments by candlelight on Shabbat (ולא יפלה את כליו... לאור הנר). The following mishna, however, states ...
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How is scraping a leaf erasure? (שבת נ ע״ב)

The Bavli, Shabas 50 amud 2 says (according to Rashi's understanding) that one can stick a knife between tightly foliated leaves on a branch on Shabas. Rashi explains: ואין חוששין שמא יגרור הקליפה ...
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Why would I have thought that healing contradicts the will of Hashem?

Bava Kamma 85a: תניא דבי ר' ישמעאל אומר (שמות כא, יט) ורפא ירפא מכאן שניתן רשות לרופא לרפאות It is taught in a Braisa: The academy of R’ Yishmael says: “Heal, he will heal” - from here [we ...
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Why did the nesiim give such tiny wagons?

The Torah describes how the nesiim gave wagons for the purpose of transporting the Mishkan. The Gemara gives the dimensions of those wagons: 5 amos long, 2.5 amos wide, with the 10-amah kerashim ...
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Beged ishah for non-ervah purposes

The reason given for the issur of beged ishah/beged ish is because it's a "toeivah" before Hashem (Devarim 22:5). The Gemara (Nazir 59a) learns from this that the issur is only for a man to dress up ...
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Haftorah Parshas Emor

Why would we institute the public haftorah reading for Emor, which includes one of the verses in Yechezkel that caused that seffer to almost be hidden away? See Shabbos 13b with Rashi. And while it'...
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How can Hashem judge a person לזכות, favourably, as in הדן חבירו לכף זכות דנין אותו לזכות

The Gemoro Shabbos 127b brings three stories illustrating the principle, הדן חבירו לכף זכות דנין אותו לזכות “He who judges his neighbour in the scale of merit is himself judged favourably.”...
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Rashi's misquoting in Parashat Pinchas?

Shalom everybody, We read lately Parashat Pinchas. The parsha deals with the story of B'not Tzelofchad (Barmidbar 27:1-11). Rashi on verse 27:3 quotes the Gemara Shabbat 96b in order to identify who ...