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The 4 plant species (citron, willow, myrtle, and palm), that are used for the mitzvah of lulav during the holiday of Sukkot.

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Shehecheyanu on Lulav during Kiddush on Sukkot night?

If the Lulav and Esrog were in sight while one recited Shehecheyanu during Kiddush at night, should he skip Shehecheyanu on the Lulav the next day?
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Beit Shammai and the Shabbos-Lulav gezeira

אֵין מוֹצִיאִין לֹא אֶת הַקָּטָן וְלֹא אֶת הַלּוּלָב וְלֹא אֶת סֵפֶר תּוֹרָה לִרְשׁוּת הָרַבִּים. וּבֵית הִלֵּל מַתִּירִין: Beit Shammai say: One may carry out on a Festival neither a minor child, nor ...
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Is a yachid the congregation or the chazzan?

When saying the Hallel on Sukkot one waves the 4 species at certain points. According to the Artscroll Machzor that I use, there are wavings that differ for the chazzan from what the kahal does (page ...
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Seemingly Hefker Esrog - used for the Mitzva

This past Erev Succos I arrived at a local synagogue that had a fellow selling Lulavim and Esrogim in their Simcha hall. The fellow left three Esrogim (not in the greatest condition - yet Kosher) on ...
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Talking between lulav and hoshanos

Before the shofar blowing, usually there's an announcement not to make a hefsek until after the last tekios post-Musaf. Is there something similar for lulav? Should you not talk between the bracha ...
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Why do we not take the lulav at night?

We do not take the lulav at night (e.g., https://www.ou.org/holidays/the_lulav_and_etrog/ ). Why is that?
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Hadassim with 3 leaves equally [closed]

My Hadassim (chut Hamakif AAA) grew roots. For the first 1+year, the main one grew 3 leaves and the off-shoots (from where the leaves fell off) grew one leaf staggered up each twig. Now for 1+ years ...
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How to make a koishele?

People use "lulav holders," or "koisheles," small containers of woven lulav leaves to hold their lulav sets (lulav + hadass + arava) together, as seen in the picture below. My father showed me how to ...
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Smelling the Haddas when the first day is Shabbos

According to the Ta”z (OC 665), who holds that it is forbidden to smell the Haddas once it was bundled - even before it was used for the Mitzvah - is one permitted to smell it on the first day of ...
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Is one allowed to render his Esrog invalid once he is done with it?

Is one allowed to render his Esrog invalid on Hosha’ana Rabbah (or Shmini Atzeres outside of Eretz Yisrael) once he is done with it, (or even before that, if there is another Esrog he can use), and if ...
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Lulav in the Mikdash vs Lulav elsewhere

The verse in Vayikra 23,40 states: וּלְקַחְתֶּ֨ם לָכֶ֜ם בַּיּ֣וֹם הָרִאשׁ֗וֹן פְּרִ֨י עֵ֤ץ הָדָר֙ כַּפֹּ֣ת תְּמָרִ֔ים וַעֲנַ֥ף עֵץ־עָבֹ֖ת וְעַרְבֵי־נָ֑חַל וּשְׂמַחְתֶּ֗ם לִפְנֵ֛י יְהֹוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֵיכֶ֖ם ...
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Is there an inyan to shake the lulav in the sukka, even when it's raining?

According to the Arizal one should shake the lulav in the sukka al pi kabbala. Does this inyan apply even if it's raining in the sukka?
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Arvei Nahal - Acceptable Species

Vayikra 23:40 provides the commandment to take up the four species on Sukkot: וּלְקַחְתֶּם לָכֶם בַּיּוֹם הָרִאשׁוֹן פְּרִי עֵץ הָדָר כַּפֹּת תְּמָרִים וַעֲנַף עֵץ עָבֹת וְעַרְבֵי נָחַל וּשְׂמַחְתֶּם ...
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Popular Contemporary Aravoth Species

Vayikra 23:40 provides the commandment to take up the 4 species on Sukkot: וּלְקַחְתֶּ֨ם לָכֶ֜ם בַּיּ֣וֹם הָֽרִאשׁ֗וֹן פְּרִ֨י עֵ֤ץ הָדָר֙ כַּפֹּ֣ת תְּמָרִ֔ים וַֽעֲנַ֥ף עֵץ־עָבֹ֖ת וְעַרְבֵי־נָ֑חַל ...
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What species of esrog do people use?

I know Lubavitchers are makpid to use only Esrogim from Genoa (if not grown there, at least that species). What do other communities use? Does anyone still use Korfu?
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Eretz Yisrael Esrog (Ordang)

Wikipedia writes, (unsourced) that standard Eretz Yisrael Esrogim are Ordang Esrogim, because virtually all of the Esrogim in Eretz Yisrael were safek murkav (possibly grafted) or produced ...
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Best variety of esrog

What is the best variety of esrog to use for the Mitzvah? Why, and what is this halachic opinion based on? I know there is not one consensus answer for this, but there are a variety of halachic ...
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Why do shuls not announced which order of direction to shake the lulav?

By all means vote for this closed if it is not your experience (and therefore "opinion based") but why do shuls not announce which directions in which order we shake the arba minim according ...
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Do Aravot grow berries?

I know that Hadasim can grow berries, but what about the accepted specie of Aravot. Does it grow berries at some point? I have heard the dvar Torah about fruit (smell/taste), but that only works if ...
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What is the white powder that covers the Lulav

I bought Lulav and it is covered with white powder. What is this powder? Is it something that relates to the kosher of the Lulav?
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Two Riddles on Brachos [closed]

I was eating at a family's house on Shabbos, and one the sons receives a dvar Torah to share with the family, along with two irrelevant riddles, typically halachic edge-cases. This week, the riddles ...
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Is there anything wrong with coloring in a white spot on an esrog?

The Shaarei Teshuva seems to permit dying a semi dried out lulav. Why don't we find people doing such a thing to a white spot on an esrog? https://www.sefaria.org/Sha'arei_Teshuvah_on_Shulchan_Arukh%...
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Is making etrog jelly an acceptable use for an etrog?

I recall reading that when one is done with his lulav, he should save it and use it for another mitzvah (such burning chameitz) because once something has been used for a mitzvah it should be used for ...
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Removing the rings from the Lulav - when?

I have observed 2 different minhagim when it comes to removing the 3 rings of the lulav on הושענה רבה. To remove it right after the bracha on the lulav, prior to hallel. To wait until after Hallel ...
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Esrog: How do you tell if a scratch or mark on the top half is a problem?

Esrog: How do you tell if a small scratch, nick, or mark on the top half (near the pitum) is a problem? If it's not mehudar, or חסר? What are the practical guidelines? People often bring such cases to ...
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Which etrog is closest to the gemara's description of "the taste of the tree trunk and its fruit are alike"?

The gemara in Sukkah 35a describes one of the characteristics of the etrog as a tree that the taste of its tree trunk and the taste of its fruit are alike dinonline expands The Kapos Temarim (...
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Threw someones esrog on the floor on chol hamoed

If someone took someone's esrog on chol hamoed and threw it on the floor and the pitum fell off, how do we evaluate how much the damager has to pay the damagee? Since on the second day (chol hamoed ...
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What is the origin of mitzvah Aravah?

Mishna in Sukkah 4:3 describes the mitzvah of Aravah, which was performed in the temple by circling the mizbeach with willow branches. This mitzvah is not mentioned in any indexes of the 613 mitzvos. ...
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Question on talmud bavli succah 33B

Rav Chisda says that Rebbi says only black and red berries invalidate the hadas but green berries won’t since it’s specie from the hadas. Why does he only exclude black berries and not say to exclude ...
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Gezerah Shema Yaverenu Daaled Amos- no megillah, lulav, or shofar on shabbos as a gezerah

Why is the Gezerah that maybe he will carry a lulav, shofar, megillah on shabbos for 4 amos in the Rishus Harabim? How did it get there? It should be gezerah that maybe he will take it out of the ...
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Why is a lulav from עיר הנדחת pasul because it lacks a shiur?

In לולב הגזול, the first Mishna says a לולב של עיר הנדחת is pasul. Rashi explains that this is because it "lacks" the minimal length of 4 tefachim, since it is supposed to be burned and is ...
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How can a Sukkah be used as a protection from "Storm and Rain"?

According to the last verse of "Yeshayahu - Isaiah - Chapter 4", a Sukkah is "for a shelter and for a covert from stream and from rain" (Chabad) or "for a refuge and for a ...
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Any halachos on repurposing arba minim?

Am I allowed to add my hadasim (myrtle) to a bouquet after yom tov? Or do anything with any of the arba minim after yom tov?
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Hadas fruit tastes like tree

The Gemara says that the Hadas branch can be identified since it has a fruit which tastes like the wood. But how do Chazal derive this from the verse "Anaf Etz Avos"? There is no mention of ...
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Why do we beat the arava?

The gemarah (Succah 44a-b) indicates that we beat (or according to Rashi, wave) the arava on Hoshana Rabba, what is the symbolic or theological reason behind doing this?
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What may I do with the leftover lulav? [closed]

Subject says it all. Can I put it in the trash? I plan to leave the Esrog in the china closet (like my grandmother did) which adds a nice aroma, all year.
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Waving the lulav during all first four verses of Psalm 118

The Shulchan Arukh Orach Chayim 651:1 writes that during the hallel we shake at three verses: הוֹד֣וּ לַֽיהוָ֣ה כִּי־ט֑וֹב כִּ֖י לְעוֹלָ֣ם חַסְדּֽוֹ׃ (Psalms 118:1) אָנָּ֣א יְ֭הוָה הֽוֹשִׁ֘יעָ֥ה ...
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613 Mitzvos depend on another?

I've noticed the following phrase in a couple places in the siddur: שֶׁתְּ֒הֵא חֲשׁוּבָה מִצְוַת _ לְפָנֶֽיךָ כְּאִלּוּ קִיַּמְתִּֽיהָ בְּכָל פְּרָטֶֽיהָ וְדִקְדּוּקֶֽיהָ וְכַוָּנוֹתֶֽיהָ וְתַרְיַ&...
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T’yomet of the lulav

I’m trying to better understand the laws of the t’yomet of the lulav. Overall, I understand that it is valid unless ‘significantly divided,’ however, what level of division invalidates? For example, ...
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Orientation of Esrog relative to person versus relative to ground

This question was originally going to be saved for Purim Torah in Jest, but after thinking about it, I feel this can have practical ramifications. How does one hold an Esrog before making the Bracha '...
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Buying pasul arba minim or non-arba minim for your small child

The Shulchan Aruch in siman 657 says that a child which knows how to shake the lulav properly, his father is obligated to buy a lulav for him (because of chinuch). The Beur Halacha d"h keday ...
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Why is height the determining factor for the the blessing on the Lulav?

The Gemara Sukkah (37b) writes ואמר רבה לולב בימין ואתרוג בשמאל מ"ט הני תלתא מצות והאי חדא מצוה א"ל ר' ירמיה לר' זריקא מאי טעם לא מברכינן אלא על נטילת לולב הואיל וגבוה מכולן ולגבהיה לאתרוג ...
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Is the mitzvah of shaking the lulav Biblical just the first day or all of the days?

See title for the question. Please quote sources if possible.
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Source for using more than 3 Hadassim?

I’m looking for the source(s) for the custom to use more than 3 Hadassim with the Lulav. My personal custom is to use 9, and I’ve heard of a custom to use as many as 70! I remember seeing it brought ...
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How large is an issar coin in halacha?

The Shulchan Aruch OC (648:2) writes אתרוג שניקב נקב מפולש כל שהוא פסול ושאינו מפולש אם היה כאיסר פסול ואם חסר כל שהוא פסול ויש אומרים דגם בנקב מפולש בעינן חסרון משהו ושאינו מפולש בחסרון כאיסר - An ...
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Why take the Eitz HaDaas on Sukkos?

The Ramban (Vayikra 23:40) writes ועל דרך האמת "פרי עץ הדר" הוא הפרי שבו רוב התאוה ובו חטא אדם הראשון שנאמר (בראשית ג ו) ותרא האשה כי טוב העץ למאכל וכי תאוה הוא לעינים ונחמד העץ להשכיל ותקח ...
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Why do some people require shaking Arba Minim (four species) in the Succah?

Related (but not a duplicate of) the old question here inquiring the logical connection between Arba Minim and the holiday of Succot. My question is in a slightly different vein - if the Arba Minim ...
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Why are the lulav, aravot and haddasim bundled?

Why are the lulav, hadassim and aravot bundled together? What's wrong with leaving them separated? Why not bundle the etrog with them? Why is it separate? Are there any hints / references in the these ...
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What's the connection between Aravos and Heaven?

What is the connection between the Aravos we take as part of the daled minim on Sukkos and the Aravos of Heaven which the Almighty "rides" on? Tehillim (68:5) שִׁירוּ לֵאלֹהִים זַמְּרוּ ...
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What are the references or terms for the word sukkah?

Which words or descriptions serve as references for the word sukkah? I will accept any and all sources that are accepted here at mi yodeya.