Questions tagged [lulav-etrog-arba-minim]

The 4 plant species (citron, willow, myrtle, and palm), that are used for the mitzvah of lulav during the holiday of Sukkot.

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How do you maximize your aravot's period of freshness?

Every Sukkot any aravot that I start the holiday with tend to get dried up by the end of the holiday, if not to the point of being unfit for service, at least enough to be ugly. What do you do to ...
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If the lulav and etrog are biblically mandated, how were people in cold climates able to obtain them before modern times?

The use of the 4 species in the lulav and etrog is biblically mandated. Therefore, when Jews left Israel and moved to cold climates such as northern and eastern Europe, they would have needed to ...
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How do Etrogs grow, pitom-up, or pitom-down?

I've done a bit of research here, but I still have some questions. To start with, for anyone who isn't familiar with this, we can't say the brucha for lulav & etrog after completing the mitzvah, ...
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If a person voids a purchase/sale, what happens to the Bracha?

You buy a new Talis and after you wear it you notice a defect. You want to return it to the store for a refund or replacement. However a person is only obligated in Tzitzis if he owns or borrows the ...
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Can I use a Lulav or Esrog from last year?

Suppose I'm able to perfectly preserve one (or all) of the Arbaah Minim from last year so that they are still in "mint condition." Can I use them again this year?
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Saying “Shehecheyanu” on Mitzvot on the second day of Yom Tov

The two days of Rosh Hashanah are considered as one day (Yoma Arichta), so why do we say Shehecheyanu when we blow the Shofar on the second day? Moreover even if we somehow view it as two days, why ...
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Is there a way to tell if a Pitom of an Etrog has been broken, or was grown that way?

Is there a way to tell whether the Pitum of an Etrog has been broken off or whether the Etrog had just grown that way (without a pitum)? (I just seem to be a little worried about mine, so any advice ...
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How to grow your own aravos

On Sukkos, Jews are commanded to take the four species, among them the "ערבי נחל" or "willow branches," commonly referred to as ערבות aravos. How might one go about growing them himself, at home? (I ...
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Shehechiyanu on Lulav

Why is it that we make Shehechiyanu both nights of Sukkos at candle lighting and Kiddush due to Sefeika DeYoma yet we only make Shehechiyanu on the Lulav on the first day?
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How to make a koishele?

People use "lulav holders," or "koisheles," small containers of woven lulav leaves to hold their lulav sets (lulav + hadass + arava) together, as seen in the picture below. My father showed me how to ...
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Why is the wording of the beracha upon shaking the arba minim only on lulav?

The beracha upon shaking the arba minim is 'על נטילת לולב'? Why is the focus on the lulav specifically rather than a more general blessing like 'על נטילת ארבעה מינים'?
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Why don't those outside of Israel shake Lulav on Shmini Atzeres?

If one holds that Jews living outside of Israel should sit in a sukkah because of Sfeika Dyoma (We aren't sure what day it is), then why shouldn't we shake lulav and esrog? Worst comes to worst we are ...
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If one is ovar on Bal Tosif are they still yotzee the mitzvah?

Although there perhaps aren't too many examples, I will present here one. If a person takes the arba minim at Sukkos (Lulav, esrog, hadasim, aravos) and adds on another min in a way they are ovar on ...
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Connection between the metzora's purification and the Four Species of Sukkos?

In the procedure prescribed for the first stage of a metzora's purification (Lev. 14:1-7), the Torah lists four items to be dipped into a mixture of blood and water: a live bird, a piece of cedar wood,...
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Source of Burning Lulav with Chometz

What is the source of the custom to keep the Lulav untill Erev Pesach and burn it with the Chometz?
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Can I use velcro to tie a Lulav?

Normally I use rings made out of lulavim to tie around the Lulav on Sukkos. Would rings made out of velcro be fine for this purpose?
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What is the correct order of directions for shaking the lulav?

I remember last year seeing two different orders of directions for shaking the lulav. In one case people did left, right, front, back, up, down, while in the other they did front, right, back, left, ...
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Why do we beat the arava?

The gemarah (succah 44a-b) indicates that we beat (or according to Rashi, wave) the arava on Hoshana Rabba, what is the symbolic or theological reason behind doing this?
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Esrog with “gartel”

Esrogim can be found in the shuk (market) that have on them a sort of "gartel" shape around the middle. That is to say a sort of indentation that make the esrog appear as if it's wearing a "gartel" (...
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Pounding the pavement WITH LEAVES?

Is hitting the Hoshanos on the ground a universal practice? And what is the source for this custom?
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What does having a Mehudar Etrog and Lulav mean over just having a kosher set?

I often hear the word 'Mehudar' used during this time of year to refer to special Lulav-and-Etrog sets. What does Mehudar mean?
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Can a court declare a minor's lulav ownerless? Has one?

Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chayim 658:6, says that one should not give his lulav to a minor as a gift, as the minor cannot give it back to him. (Minors cannot give anyone legal ownership in anything.) ...
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(How) Are these aravos kosher?

According to my understanding of Shulchan Aruch OC 647:1, the edges of the leaves of the aravos should not have serrated edges, but should rather be smooth: עַרְבֵי נַחַל הָאָמוּר בַּתּוֹרָה [...] ...
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Bal Toisif on the Four Minim

It seems that there exists a Minhag (a practice of the last Lubavitcher Rebbe Zatzal) of adding extra Hadassim or Aravos (Hashanos) — I am uncertain which, maybe both — to the standard 4 ...
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Esrog flax on woolen clothes

I haven't seen it in a few years, but esrogim used to come wrapped in flax. Or, at least, a yellowish, brownish, hairy substance people called "flax", which leads us to my first question: Was it ...
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Which etrog is closest to the gemara's description of “the taste of the tree trunk and its fruit are alike”?

The gemara in Sukkah 35a describes one of the characteristics of the etrog as a tree that the taste of its tree trunk and the taste of its fruit are alike dinonline expands The Kapos Temarim (...
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What does biting off the Pitum have to do with Pregnancy?

I recently read that it's a Segulah (others put it as a minhag) for a pregnant woman to bite off the Pitum of the esrog on Hoshana Rabbah for an easy labor. (please correct me if I misunderstood it) ...
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Lulav-shake count varying with shake history

T'hilas Hashem, the standard sidur (prayer book) of the Lubavitch chasidim, includes, passim, rulings of their first rabbi ("the Rav"), copied from his own sidur. The rules printed before halel ...
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Customs for waving arba minim three times in each direction

I get why we shake the arba minim in all directions, but why do some have the custom of shaking them three times in each direction?
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can I smell my esrog?

There is such a concept of something that is 'huktzah l'mitzvasa' (set aside for its mitzvah observance), I was wondering about the smelling of the esrog and how this rule would be applied to it?
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Do we wave or shake the lulav?

I have observed two ways of moving the lulav. 1) Moving the lulav to and fro and incorporating a sudden movement at the beginning and the end to cause the leaves of the lulav to rustle. 2) Waving ...
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What to do with a sh'vi'it etrog

Last year (5775) was a shemitah year, as such, etrogim produced in Israel end up becoming sh'vi'it (produce of the seventh year). One of the boxes I saw mentioned that the etrog should be disposed of ...
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Seemingly Hefker Esrog - used for the Mitzva

This past Erev Succos I arrived at a local synagogue that had a fellow selling Lulavim and Esrogim in their Simcha hall. The fellow left three Esrogim (not in the greatest condition - yet Kosher) on ...
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Koishele on Lulav

Is there any significance, halachic or otherwise, to the holder (or koishele) for the hadassim and aravot on the lulav? Who is the earliest source to describe it? Who (other than Chabad) doesn't use ...
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May a child make a Berachah on a Pasul set of 4 species?

May a child make a Berachah on a Pasul set of 4 species that their parents gave them to learn how to make the Berachah and do the Mitzvah?
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Where to get etrogim in the US after Sukkot [closed]

NPR ran an article about the etrog market in the Jewish world. They mention that after chag, etrogim cost about $2 a pound (not to mention the ones which were passul to begin with). Does anyone know ...
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What is the right way to wave the lulav and esrog in the down direction?

We wave the lulav and esrog (4 minim) in six directions including “down”. What is the right way to wave down? I have seen two procedures. 1) The 4 minim are held lower (nearer to the ground) than ...
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Practical advice for keeping tallis on while waving 4 species

Whenever I wave my four species in shul, I always find that my tallis repeatedly slips off my head and shoulders. I typically have to adjust it every single set of waves, which is rather distracting. ...
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Can Etrog and Lulav be too cheap?

In the last years, in Israel, on Erev Chag Succot, about 4 hours before the Chag begins, we witness an interesting phenomenon - incredible price drop for the 4 Minim, especially the expensive Etrog ...
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Can one wet the lulav-towel on yom tov?

Some people wrap the bottom of the lulav (with the hadasim and aravot) with a moist towel, rag, or paper towel to keep the hadasim and aravot looking good. Is this allowed to be done on yom tov? If ...
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Buying pasul arba minim or non-arba minim for your small child

The Shulchan Aruch in siman 657 says that a child which knows how to shake the lulav properly, his father is obligated to buy a lulav for him (because of chinuch). The Beur Halacha d"h keday ...
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May the Shmittah Etrog be used to make lemon-scented deodorant or furniture polish?

My son brought me a pamphlet produced by Yeshiva Sh'or Yoshuv (Far Rockaway, NY) that discussed the laws of the 4 minim. (If I can locate an online copy, I'll edit in a link.) Near the end of the ...
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Waving the lulav

Why do we wave the lulav forward by הודו, right by כי, back by טוב, left by כי, up by לעולם and down by חסדו?
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Why did the Torah require 7 days for sitting in the Succah but just 1 day for 4 minim?

Is there any meaning, symbolism or explanation why the Torah requires just 1 day for using the 4 species but 7 days to sit in the Succah? Offhand, it seems that sitting in the succah is "more ...
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Is it Better to Buy a Pitom-less Esrog?

Although the Rema (648:7) says a grown pitom-less esrog is valid אם לא היה לו דד מעולם כשר וכן הם רוב האתרוגים שמביאים במדינות אלו are there any Jewish sources which encourage purchasing a pitom-...
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Arvei Nahal - Acceptable Species

Vayikra 23:40 provides the commandment to take up the 4 species on Sukkot: וּלְקַחְתֶּם לָכֶם בַּיּוֹם הָרִאשׁוֹן פְּרִי עֵץ הָדָר כַּפֹּת תְּמָרִים וַעֲנַף עֵץ עָבֹת וְעַרְבֵי נָחַל וּשְׂמַחְתֶּם ...
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Giving a lulav on condition to return, but in a chain where the last person keeps it

The Gemara in Sukkah on daf :מא relates a story of Rabban Gamliel, Rabbi Yehoshua, Rabbi Elazar ben Azaria, and Rabbi Akiva riding on a boat. The time came to shake lulav, but only Rabban Gamliel had ...
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Why do we wave the Lulav / etrog?

The mitzvah mentioned in the Torah just says to "take" 4 species. The Torah doesn't mention anything about waving them. The Talmud mentions waving them at certain points in Hallel, but there doesn't ...
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According to the Rambam, how do you shake the lulav?

How do you shake the arba minim according to the Rambam?
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Must one pay for the esrog and arovos before succot

Must one pay for an esrog or arovot before succot. Most likely every retailer will tell you if you dont pay you are not yotsai. The question really is has he paid his wholesaler and has the wholesaler ...