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Why is kedusha only said during the day?

The kedusha is said as part of the morning blessings of shema, and also in all the public recital of prayers. It's not said in the evening prayer, neither in the blessings before shema nor the prayer ...
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Ledor vador vs. Ata kadosh

During the repetition of the amida, many shuls (Minhag Ashkenaz) have the Minhag that after kedusha, the chazzan says ledor vador instead of the usual ata kadosh. When was it, why was it instituted, ...
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Amida together with the chazzan

If one came late to davening and he can not make tefila betzibur as he won’t have time to get up the amida with th congregation, he should say the amida together with the chazzan (SA OC 109:1). Does ...
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Maariv Motzoei Shabbos. Origin of the minhag not to say the verses of “Kedusha Desidra” aloud

The Oruch HaShulchan O. Ch. 132 (1) points out that Chazal did not institute to say “kedusha” at Maariv. Indeed we do not say “kedusha” at Maariv; but on Motzoei Shabbos we do say ואתה קדוש וכ׳ in ...
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Lifting one's eyes during Kedusha

What is the source for lifting one's eyes heavenwards when reciting "kadosh, kadosh, kadosh" during the Kedusha?
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Why do we recite the “musaf” kedushah at every chazarat hashatz of Yom Kippur?

Why do we recite the "musaf" kedushah, including the first pasuk of shema, at every chazarat hashatz of Yom Kippur? (I'm referring here to Nusach Ashkenaz and (chassidic) Nusach Sefard. Apparently ...
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What is the proper procedure for answering parts of Kedusha?

I checked 3 different Siddurim for instructions regarding how to respond to parts of the Kedusha. All are Nusach Ashkenaz Art Scroll has inconsistent rules: Weekday Kedusha Shacharit & Mincha ...
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What is the nature of the obligation to answer to Kedusha?

Inspired by Reaching kedusha during silent shemone esre among many others, and the comment, "'fulfill the obligation of someone who missed the Kedusha during the Amidah' What obligation is this ...
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Should I remain silent during kedusha (if it's my minhag) in a kehila which doesn't?

If one's personal minhag is to stay silent during the chazan's recitation of kedusha in the repetition of the 'Amidah (except for "kadosh…", "baruch…", and "yimloch…", which are recited in all ...
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Amen Yehei Shemei Rabba and Kedushah

I have heard that it is a greater merit to respond to Amen Yehei Shmei Rabba than to respond to Kedushah. Can someone please clarify this and provide sources?
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When does Kedusha start?

During Kedusha, one is to stand with the proper physical attitude (or, if one is still davening, stop and listen, at least according to some opinions). But when does Kedusha begin? Knowing when it ...
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Kedushah during silent Shemoneh Esrei

I've heard that if you've finished Sim Shalom (or Shalom Rav) when the Chazzan reaches Kedushah, you should say Kedushah with the Minyan. If you do say Kedushah, should you bow at Zeh Elzeh Vi'amar ...
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Answering kedusha differently to the kehilla?

If one is praying a nusach which is different to the nusach that the shul is using, is it wrong to answer according to your own nusach?
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Chazan's Recitation of Shmona Esrei - Nusach Ashkenaz

In nusach Ashkenaz, the chazzan's repetition of Shmona Esrei skips the paragraph beginning with "אתה קדוש ושמך קדוש", and connects the qedusha with the following brakha ("אתה חונן לאדם דעת") by means ...
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why bob up and down when saying kedusha

During the kedusha at mincha and shacharis prayer service, the custom is to bob up and down when saying kadosh, kadosh, kadosh. what is the reason for this?
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What kavanah should you have during *Atah Kadosh*?

The third blessing of the amidah, Atah Kadosh, seems mysterious to me: You are holy and your name is holy, and the holy ones bless you all day. Blessed are you Hashem, the Holy God. Is there any ...
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Who composed this common melody for Shema' in the Musaf Kedushah (n. Ashkenaz)?

Who composed the melody for the Hu Elokeinu part of the Shema' section of Kedushah recited at Musaf on Shabbath and Yom Tov, which is demonstrated in this recording (at about the 6:19 mark)?
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Why is the special kedusha for Shabbat and Yom Tov musaf not said on Chol Hamoed or Rosh Chodesh?

On Shabbat and Yom Tov Ashkenazim say an extended kedusha in musaf (on Yom Kippur, we even say it throughout the day). The Artscroll (machzor, Yom Kippur, pages 406-407) explains: During Mussaf of ...
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If I daven amida very slowly what do I do when the shatz reaches Kedusha?

I strive to synchronize my tefila with the tzibur on Shema and the beginning of Shmoneh Esra. However, I daven quite slowly (metoch nesyon kavana) and I am almost always somewhere in the middle when ...
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Kedusha in Amida vs. Kedusha d'sidra

Why is kedusha inserted in Amida and, unlike kedusha d'sidra and uva letziyon, omitted by a yachid? These are actually two related questions. First, kedusha is said three times in shacharis- once in ...
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Why different customs for daily and Shabbat Kedusha?

In the repetition of the Shabbat amida, we who are not leading say all lines of the Kedusha, as does the shaliach tzibur. In the repetition of the daily amida, only the shaliach says all the ...
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Attempting to stand for the kedusho in the blessings before the shema at Shacharis

In the section starting "יוצר אור" at Shacharis, there is a kedusho. When it is said, most people are sitting. I have seen some people who raise themselves slightly as if to get out of their seats for ...
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Why is it common practice to say Nakdishach/Nekadesh before the hazzan?

Shulchan Aruch OC 125:1 rules (and the Rama agrees): אין הצבור אומרים עם שליח ציבור נקדישך אלא שותקין ומכונין למה ששליח ציבור אומר עד שמגיע לקדושה ואז עונים הציבור קדוש The congregation does ...
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Stepping back to answer kedusha while person behind hasn't finished praying

According to Halachipdeia (source) you're not supposed to walk 4 amot in front of a person praying the amidah. I think you also have certain restrictions regarding which parts of kedusha could be ...
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V'kara zeh el zeh v'amar - When does who bow left then right here?

At the beginning of Kedusha, the Chazzan says v'kara zeh el zeh v'amar. I've seen three types of chazzanim with regard to bowing left at the first zeh and right at the second: bow left and right at ...
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What is the proper intent to have when we say “Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh?”

One of the benefits of communal prayer is the ability to say K'dusha in the repetition of the Amidah. We also say "Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh" (Is 6) as a preparatory component of Shma, and in U'Va L'...
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Bowing during kedusha

Today at Mincha, the Shaliach tzibbur bowed for each word of Kadosh Kadosh Kadosh, to the left, right, and then center, as we do at the end of Shemoneh Esrei. I have never seen that before. Is there ...
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Answering an essential answer while in the middle of another

Some congregational responses are of the "highest level"; required except in special circumstances, like during sh'mone esrei, in the beginning of krias sh'ma, and in the middle of a short bracha. ...
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Why don't we say amen after a Heicha Kedusha?

I have been davening Shacharit before work in a shul that does the Heicha Kedusha on any weekday that they get a minyan. If there is no minyan, they do the Silent Amidah only. I can understand that ...
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Shliah Tzibbur's Repetition of Lines of Kedushah

In kedushah, in hazarat ha-shatz, when the congregation has finished saying 'Kadosh kadosh kadosh...' and it's time for the shliah tzibbur to repeat the line out loud, it seems like the practice is ...
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“He'amur” rather than “ha'amur” in K'dusha introduction?

A shali'ach tzibur I heard recently, in the introductory paragraph of K'dusha on shabas morning read the line "kadavar he'amur al yad n'vi'echa". A fellow audience member said that he does this ...
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Sources and reasoning for variant chazzan timings in Kedusha

In various siddurim, I have seen two different instructions for when the chazzan should say the central lines of Kedusha ("Kadosh ...," "Baruch ...," and "Yimloch ..."): Along with the congregation (...
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What is the purpose of the lead-in to each line of the mini-Kedushah, and what is expected of the congregants?

In the mini-Kedushah, when the lines of Kedushah are recited in blessing Yotzer Or before the morning Keriath Shema', and in Kedushah DeSidra (colloquially known as Uva Letzion and recited at various ...
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When is kedusha “over”?

As an extension of this question: When I daven and am still davening when the shaliach tzibbur repeats shmoneh esrei, I know I am supposed to stand quietly during kedusha and continue with my ...
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Kedusha after Tefila

Today, in our Shul (in Shaharit) a man walked in a little late and I guess he didn't have enough time to catch up to our Minyan. After Tefila, he asked the Gabbai if he could say his own Shemona Esre, ...
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How can angels “give permission” to each other?

As I understood it, angels have no free will and strictly do those things G-d instructs them to do. But in the brachas preceding krias Shema, we say that the angels "all accept upon themselves the ...
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Why do modern siddurim not break up the Shabbos Mussaf Kedusho at “להיות לכם לאלקים” as we used to do?

In the Kedusho in Musaf for Shabbos, the custom in nusach ashkenaz used to be that the chazzan would stop at the words “להיות לכם לאלקים” and the community would answer “אני ה" אלקיכם”. The custom ...
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When may one do a Hechi Kedushah?

May a Chazzan decide on his own to do a Hechi Kedushah, or are there rules for when it is appropriate/mandated?
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Shema in Musaf Kedushah - Source and reason

I grew up on the Birnbaum siddur, I admit it. I read the little explanations at the bottom of the page over and over. Later, I bought a set of Artscroll machzorim and used those on Rosh Hashana and ...
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Humming during shmoneh esre

On shabbat for shacharit and mussaf, I am usually still davening shmoneh esre by the time the chazzan gets to kedusha. In this situation, can I hum to the tune of kedusha? This essentially boils down ...
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Can you respond to קדושה if you are not already done with your own ש''ע?

Can you respond to קדושה if you are not already done with your own ש''ע? I heard that you can if you are past a certain point after שים שלום/שלום רב. I just want to know if that's true and, if so, ...
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Moving from one's spot after Kedusha

After standing still for Kedusha, some people move after saying Yimloich, whereas others wait until after the Chazan says Hokail Hakodoish. What is the correct way?
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how does one do hechi kedusha?

I am interested in two cases: 1) the congregation is davening mincha in a rush, and doing a "hechi kedusha" (btw, what is the etymology of this phrase) 2) an individual arrives late for mincha and is ...
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Reaching kedusha during silent shemone esre

When the chazzan starts kedusha in chazarat hashatz while you're davening, are you supposed to answer the chant, continue in your tefilla, or just not say anything?