Questions tagged [job-iyov-book-of]

Iyov's plight of severe physical suffering and his consolation from his three close friends Eliphaz Hateimani, Bildad hashuchi and Tzofar Hanaamasi explaining Divine Justice, and eventual rebuilding his Life

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Are there examples in Tanach of 3 or more parties having an ongoing conversation?

From what I have seen in reading Tanach every conversation is between two parties and two parties only. Sometimes those parties consist of 1 person and other times of several people for example "And ...
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Why do Sifrei Emes use different taamim?

I know that the Sifrei Emes (Tehillim, Mishlei, Iyov) use a different system of taamim. Why is this? What is it about these books that makes it that they cannot — or should not — use the ...
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Two instances of etnaḥta in Iyov 22:21

My Koren Ma'alot Tanakh (2018, ISBN 978-965-301-894-5) has Iyov 22:21 like this: הַסְכֶּן־נָ֣א עִמּ֑וֹ וּשְׁלָ֑ם בָּ֝הֶ֗ם תְּֽבוֹאָֽתְךָ֥ טוֹבָֽה׃ Is this a mistake, or is it trying to indicate an ...
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Why do the Sifrei Eme"s (i.e. Job, Proverbs, Psalms) have cantillation marks?

Why do the Sifrei Eme"s (i.e. Job, Proverbs, Psalms) have cantillation marks? Are they read to a tune or is it just punctuation for personal usage? Have they ever been read publicly with the tune? (...
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On what basis do we understand references to Orion and the Pleiades in Iyov?

Iyov 38:31-32 reads: הַתְקַשֵּׁר מַעֲדַנּוֹת כִּימָה אוֹ מוֹשְׁכוֹת כְּסִיל תְּפַתֵּחַ: . הֲתֹצִיא מַזָּרוֹת בְּעִתּוֹ וְעַיִשׁ עַל בָּנֶיהָ תַנְחֵם: Can you tie the chains of the Pleiades ...
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Why aren't Job or Psalms 90 in the Pentateuch?

In the Tanakh, the Jewish Biblical Canon, there are three categories of works: the Torah of Moses, and what are know as the 'Prophets' and 'Writings'. This categorization is outlined and mentioned in ...
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The Prophets from Job Primarily Addressed Gentiles?

Bava Bathra 15b (original text here) says that there were seven prophets that primarily prophesied for gentiles, including Job and his four friends. Is the Talmud saying that the book of Job speaks ...
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Why did Ashkenazi Jews not adopt the custom of reading the Book of Job in synagogue on Tisha B'Av, as Sephardim do?

I understand that Sephardim have the custom of reading the Book of Job on Tisha B'Av. Is there any historic discussion among Ashkenazi rabbis regarding why the practice was not adopted by them?
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What does the term “sons of G-d” mean?

The term "sons of G-d" בני האלהים is found 5 times in the Hebrew Bible, once in Genesis (6:2), three times in Job (1:6, 2:1 and 38:7) and one time in Psalms (29:1). What does it mean? Does it have the ...
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Elihu (who helped Job) is Yitzhak?

In the Yerushalmi Sotah (5:8) it says that Elihu ben Berachel was Yitzhak Avinu, who was niftar according to my calculations 10 years before Yaacov + fam descended to Egypt, which was around 93-94 ...
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Elevated Ayin (ע) in Iyov 38:13 and 38:15

I noticed this in Iyov 38:13,15: יג לֶאֱחֹז, בְּכַנְפוֹת הָאָרֶץ; וְיִנָּעֲרוּ רְשָׁעִים מִמֶּנָּה.‏ טו וְיִמָּנַע מֵרְשָׁעִים אוֹרָם; וּזְרוֹעַ רָמָה, תִּשָּׁבֵר.‏ I know about ...
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Do we know of any animals that behave this way? (Bava Basra 16a)

The Gemara in Bava Basra 16a explains certain pesukim in Sefer Iyov to be referring to a conversation between Hashem and Iyov in which Hashem rebukes Iyov for denying or complaining about Hashem's ...
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Eliphaz and Bildad Zophar

Iyov 42:9: וַיֵּלְכוּ אֱלִיפַז הַתֵּימָנִי וּבִלְדַּד הַשּׁוּחִי צֹפַר הַנַּעֲמָתִי וַיַּעֲשׂוּ כַּאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר אֲלֵיהֶם ה׳ In the JPS translation: So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the ...
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According to the opinions that Iyov did not live in the days of Moshe, who wrote his Sefer?

Bava Basra 15a-b lists a number of opinions as to when Iyov lived: R' Levi bar Chama: In the days of Moshe Rava: In the days of the Meraglim Unnamed student of R' Shmuel bar Nachmani: Iyov never ...
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If Moses wrote the Book of Job, was he Job's contemporary and writing history or is the Book an inspirational work of fiction?

The Talmud at Bava Basra 14b-15b teaches that Moses wrote the Book of Job before the Exodus. If so, was he a contemporary and a witness to Job's suffering, was he describing a historical figure he ...
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Makers and Creators: Job 35:10 & 12:1 Kohelet singular v.s. plural

After reading the description of the Zohar from the Chabad website, I got confused: What is the correct translation for Job 35:10: 'My Maker', ' Our Maker', or Makers? After searching the internet ...
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God talking to Satan in the Book of Job,how did they know?

Job chapter 1 vers 6 - 12 Talks about God and Satan having a conversation.Where does that story come from? Job does not know what is going on and I have never heard anyone talk about it. Is it a ...
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Which Chachamim or great figures in our tradition got divorced? What is said about these marriages? [closed]

I have read that Abraham gave Hagar a divorce but the source was disreputable and I could not find a reputable one. The context here is that I am learning Iyov and thinking about the misfortunes that ...
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Why Job was subjected to pain and misery despite he was a pious man?

What was the rationale of subjecting Job to pain and misery though he was a pious man of G-d. Please explain with logical reasons.
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Seeking information on the Targum to Iyov

Tosefta Shabbat 14(13?):2-3 describes a targum to the book of Iyov which was subsequently hidden away. א"ר יוסי מעשה [שהלך ר'] חלפתא אצל רבן גמליאל לטבריא ומצאו שהיה יושב על שולחנו של ר' יוחנן [בן ...
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Eliphaz HaTeimoni - who was he?

In Seder HaDoros, it tells us that Bildad HaShuchi was one of the sons of Shuach ben Avraham Avinu. It also tells us that Elihu ben Barachel HaBuzi was son of Barachel ben Buz ben Nochor ben Terach. ...
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Throwing dust on head = common mourning ritual?

In Job 2:12, when Job's friends first see Job at a distance, they "did not recognize him, and they raised their voices, and wept aloud; they tore their robes and threw dust in the air upon their heads....
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Is there a way to lein Taamei Emes that includes mesharsim?

I learned to lein Taamei Emes a few years ago using this link, which I found in a comment here on MY. However, the tradition recorded there only takes the mafsikim into account, and all the mesharsim,...
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Was Iyov rewarded for passing his first test?

In Iyov chapter 1 Satan proposes to God to test Iyov's fidelity to God by striking Iyov's possessions. God agrees and Iyov loses essentially everything. At the end of chapter 1 and again in chapter 2 ...
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No trust in His servants, and charging His malachim?

Iyov 4:18 Behold, In His (HaShem's) servants 'lo yamin', and in His messengers 'yasim toholah'. Behold, He putteth no trust in His servants, and His angels He chargeth with folly (or error). I ...
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Ramban's perception on death

I read Rav Gifter's biography, where he states the following: The Ramban, in his introduction to Iyov, asks a question: “Why do we cry at a moment of death? “Why do we shed tears? This is the natural ...
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Is the commentary of Rabbaynu Saadya Gaon on Iyov available online?

I was not able to find the commentary of R' Saadya Gaon to Iyov on Hebrewbooks (ex 1), Sefaria or through a Google search. I would like to know if this commentary is available anywhere online, free or ...
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Ralbag introduction of the commentary on Sefer Iyov

I am looking for the introduction of the Ralbag’s commentary on Sefer Iyov. In my Mikraot Gedolot edition this introduction is skipped. I am searching for a free online edition if possible.
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Why were the Egyptians judged for twelve lunar months, rather than solar ones?

Eduyos 2:10 lists several judgements which lasted for exactly twelve months: חֲמִשָּׁה דְבָרִים שֶׁל שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ. מִשְׁפַּט דּוֹר הַמַּבּוּל, שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ. מִשְׁפַּט אִיּוֹב, ...
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Would Jobs daughters sons have been sons of Job?

In Job's testing, Jobs sons all died. When God restored him, he had seven sons and three daughters. He gave the daughters an inheritance among their brothers. Would Job's grand sons (The daughter's ...
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How long did Iyov suffer unfairly until G-d gave him blessings for resisting it?

Some relevant passages from the book of Iyov (Job): 1:1 "There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was sincere and upright, God-fearing and shunning evil." 1:8-9 "Now the ...
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What is the precise translation of the word ארשע?

The pasuk in Iyov 10:7 states: עַל דַּעְתְּךָ כִּי לֹא אֶרְשָׁע וְאֵין מִיָּדְךָ מַצִּיל Chabad.org translates: It is in Your knowledge that I will not be condemned, but no one can save [me] ...
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How could the angel of the sea disobey?

The Midrash in Bamidbar Rabbah 18:22 expounds Iyov 26:12 that when HaShem created the world, he told Rahav, the angel in charge of the ocean, to "open his mouth and swallow all the waters of Creation" ...
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Universe has no foundation- Iyov

What pasuk in Iyov says that the universe has no foundation? This connects to Brias HaOlam in perek aleph of bereshis.
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Why didn’t Iyov commit suicide?

Iyov says the following (6:9) וְיֹאֵ֣ל אֱ֭לוֹהַּ וִֽידַכְּאֵ֑נִי יַתֵּ֥ר יָ֝ד֗וֹ וִֽיבַצְּעֵֽנִי׃, Even that it would please God to crush me; that He would let loose His hand, and cut me off! Rashi ...