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Iyov's plight of severe physical suffering and his consolation from his three close friends Eliphaz Hateimani, Bildad hashuchi and Tzofar Hanaamasi explaining Divine Justice, and eventual rebuilding his Life

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Why doesn't Satan try to talk to Job?

In the story of Job, Satan bets with God to prove Job's impiety, but does not interact openly with him and does not try to persuade him to sin. He only tries to harm Job indirectly - with his wealth, ...
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If Iyov 2:1 states HaYom occurs in Heaven before HaShem, does Laylah also occur in Heaven?

Understanding "Ha-Yom" in [Iyov 2:1] raises questions about the occurrences of Yom and possibly Layla in Heaven. Now [The-Day] came about that the divine beings presented themselves before ...
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What caused Iyov to "snap"?

In the first couple of chapters of Iyov, many tragedies befall him. However, he doesn't lose faith. And even when his own body is afflicted, he stays faithful (2:9-10): "His wife said to him, “...
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May one learn commentaries of permitted texts on Tisha B'av?

Regarding texts one is permitted to learn on Tisha B'av like Eicha and Iyov, is one allowed to learn the various meforshim as well or only the texts themselves?
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Is Job considered a prophet and an Israelite, according to the majority of the rabbis?

According to Wikipedia: "It is said in Bava Batra that these tannaim necessarily considered Job an Israelite; but R. Chananel ben Chushiel has in his text, "All the Tannaim and Amoraim, with ...
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The grammatical nature of וָאִמָּלְטָה in the context of Job 1:15. How exactly did the only surviving servant "slip away"?

In Job 1:15, we read that the Sabeans fell upon and took Job's cattle and she-asses. Then they killed the young men, or servants, of Job, by the sword. Only one of these servants got away, and it is ...
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What does the phrase " שְֽׁלַֽח־נָ֣א יָֽדְךָ֔ וְגַ֖ע " from Iyov 1:11 and 2:5 mean?

When reading Iyov 1:11 and 2:5 the phrase " שְֽׁלַֽח־נָ֣א יָֽדְךָ֔ וְגַ֖ע " means what specifically? How is the imperative request "please-Send Your-Hand and-Touch" suppose to be ...
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Iyov and his place in Jewish history

When one refers to the Gemara in Bava Basra 15 there are numerous suggestions as to when Iyov lived. Opinions range from it being only a parable and that he never truly existed, to living during the ...
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What was the reason for Job's original success and prosperity?

The book starts with the description of Job's piety and then his wealth and success: ... That man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil. Seven sons and three daughters were born ...
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How does God's bet with Satan square with monotheistic theology?

One day the divine beings presented themselves before the LORD, and [the] Satan came along with them. The LORD said to the Satan, “Where have you been?” ... -“I have been roaming all over the earth.” ....
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Why didn't God reveal to Job that He simply bet with Satan?

The book of Job focuses on theological and philosophical explanations of Job's (and other pious individuals') suffering. Eventually, God Himself talks to Job revealing that His thoughts and plans for ...
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Is Satan a being or just a mission any angel could fulfill?

Midrash B"R quoted by Rashi (Genesis.32.30, and similarly Judges.13.18) says that: "We [angels] have no fixed names; our names change, all depending upon the service we are commanded to ...
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Why does the Pasuk say אִיּ֣וֹב שְׁמ֑וֹ?

My Artscroll Megillat Esther has a commentary on the words וּשְׁמ֣וֹ מָרְדֳּכַ֗י (Esther 2:5) And his name was Mordecai that whenever a righteous person is introduced, scripture says the word שְׁמוֹ ...
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Understanding lack of accountability for statements made while suffering

In Bava Batra 16b Rava two verses for Iyov are compared (איוב לד, לה) [איוב] לא בדעת ידבר ודבריו לא בהשכל (וכתיב (איוב מב, ז) כי לא דברתם אלי נכונה כעבדי איוב) On the one hand, the text states: “Job ...
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Where is the first time that Tehillim, Mishlei, Iyov are referred to as ספרי אמ"ת?

The books of Tehillim, Mishlei, Iyov are often referred as ספרי אמ"ת. Where is the first source making this reference?
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Was Eliphaz a prophet?

In the book of Iyov chapter 4 starting in verse 12 Eliphaz seems to make a claim that he has had some sort of prophetic vision. ואלי דבר יגנב ותקח אזני שמץ מנהו יגבשעפים מחזינות לילה בנפל תרדמה על־...
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Are there examples in Tanach of 3 or more parties having an ongoing conversation?

From what I have seen in reading Tanach every conversation is between two parties and two parties only. Sometimes those parties consist of 1 person and other times of several people for example "And ...
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Ralbag introduction of the commentary on Sefer Iyov

I am looking for the introduction of the Ralbag’s commentary on Sefer Iyov. In my Mikraot Gedolot edition this introduction is skipped. I am searching for a free online edition if possible.
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Two instances of etnaḥta in Iyov 22:21

My Koren Ma'alot Tanakh (2018, ISBN 978-965-301-894-5) has Iyov 22:21 like this: הַסְכֶּן־נָ֣א עִמּ֑וֹ וּשְׁלָ֑ם בָּ֝הֶ֗ם תְּֽבוֹאָֽתְךָ֥ טוֹבָֽה׃ Is this a mistake, or is it trying to indicate an ...
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Why didn’t Iyov commit suicide?

Iyov says the following (6:9) וְיֹאֵ֣ל אֱ֭לוֹהַּ וִֽידַכְּאֵ֑נִי יַתֵּ֥ר יָ֝ד֗וֹ וִֽיבַצְּעֵֽנִי׃, Even that it would please God to crush me; that He would let loose His hand, and cut me off! Rashi ...
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Why were the Egyptians judged for twelve lunar months, rather than solar ones?

Eduyos 2:10 lists several judgements which lasted for exactly twelve months: חֲמִשָּׁה דְבָרִים שֶׁל שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ. מִשְׁפַּט דּוֹר הַמַּבּוּל, שְׁנֵים עָשָׂר חֹדֶשׁ. מִשְׁפַּט אִיּוֹב, ...
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According to the opinions that Iyov did not live in the days of Moshe, who wrote his Sefer?

Bava Basra 15a-b lists a number of opinions as to when Iyov lived: R' Levi bar Chama: In the days of Moshe Rava: In the days of the Meraglim Unnamed student of R' Shmuel bar Nachmani: Iyov never ...
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Is there a way to lein Taamei Emes that includes mesharsim?

I learned to lein Taamei Emes a few years ago using this link, which I found in a comment here on MY. However, the tradition recorded there only takes the mafsikim into account, and all the mesharsim,...
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Elevated Ayin (ע) in Iyov 38:13 and 38:15

I noticed this in Iyov 38:13,15: יג לֶאֱחֹז, בְּכַנְפוֹת הָאָרֶץ; וְיִנָּעֲרוּ רְשָׁעִים מִמֶּנָּה.‏ טו וְיִמָּנַע מֵרְשָׁעִים אוֹרָם; וּזְרוֹעַ רָמָה, תִּשָּׁבֵר.‏ I know about ...
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Do we know of any animals that behave this way? (Bava Basra 16a)

The Gemara in Bava Basra 16a explains certain pesukim in Sefer Iyov to be referring to a conversation between Hashem and Iyov in which Hashem rebukes Iyov for denying or complaining about Hashem's ...
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Is the commentary of Rabbaynu Saadya Gaon on Iyov available online?

I was not able to find the commentary of R' Saadya Gaon to Iyov on Hebrewbooks (ex 1), Sefaria or through a Google search. I would like to know if this commentary is available anywhere online, free or ...
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Was Iyov rewarded for passing his first test?

In Iyov chapter 1 Satan proposes to God to test Iyov's fidelity to God by striking Iyov's possessions. God agrees and Iyov loses essentially everything. At the end of chapter 1 and again in chapter 2 ...
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Seeking information on the Targum to Iyov

Tosefta Shabbat 14(13?):2-3 describes a targum to the book of Iyov which was subsequently hidden away. א"ר יוסי מעשה [שהלך ר'] חלפתא אצל רבן גמליאל לטבריא ומצאו שהיה יושב על שולחנו של ר' יוחנן [בן ...
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God talking to Satan in the Book of Job,how did they know?

Job chapter 1 vers 6 - 12 Talks about God and Satan having a conversation.Where does that story come from? Job does not know what is going on and I have never heard anyone talk about it. Is it a ...
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Universe has no foundation- Iyov

What pasuk in Iyov says that the universe has no foundation? This connects to Brias HaOlam in perek aleph of bereshis.
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Which Chachamim or great figures in our tradition got divorced? What is said about these marriages? [closed]

I have read that Abraham gave Hagar a divorce but the source was disreputable and I could not find a reputable one. The context here is that I am learning Iyov and thinking about the misfortunes that ...
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How could the angel of the sea disobey?

The Midrash in Bamidbar Rabbah 18:22 expounds Iyov 26:12 that when HaShem created the world, he told Rahav, the angel in charge of the ocean, to "open his mouth and swallow all the waters of Creation" ...
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How long did Iyov suffer unfairly until G-d gave him blessings for resisting it?

Some relevant passages from the book of Iyov (Job): 1:1 "There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was sincere and upright, God-fearing and shunning evil." 1:8-9 "Now the ...
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Eliphaz HaTeimoni - who was he?

In Seder HaDoros, it tells us that Bildad HaShuchi was one of the sons of Shuach ben Avraham Avinu. It also tells us that Elihu ben Barachel HaBuzi was son of Barachel ben Buz ben Nochor ben Terach. ...
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No trust in His servants, and charging His malachim?

Iyov 4:18 Behold, In His (HaShem's) servants 'lo yamin', and in His messengers 'yasim toholah'. Behold, He putteth no trust in His servants, and His angels He chargeth with folly (or error). I ...
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Throwing dust on head = common mourning ritual?

In Job 2:12, when Job's friends first see Job at a distance, they "did not recognize him, and they raised their voices, and wept aloud; they tore their robes and threw dust in the air upon their heads....
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Why Job was subjected to pain and misery despite he was a pious man?

What was the rationale of subjecting Job to pain and misery though he was a pious man of G-d. Please explain with logical reasons.
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Would Job's daughters' sons have been sons of Job?

In Job's testing, Job's sons all died. When God restored him, he had seven sons and three daughters. He gave the daughters an inheritance among their brothers. Would Job's grandsons (The daughters' ...
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Source for Ramban's perception on death

I read Rav Gifter's biography, where he states the following: The Ramban, in his introduction to Iyov, asks a question: “Why do we cry at a moment of death? “Why do we shed tears? This is the natural ...
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Makers and Creators: Job 35:10 & 12:1 Kohelet singular v.s. plural

After reading the description of the Zohar from the Chabad website, I got confused: What is the correct translation for Job 35:10: 'My Maker', ' Our Maker', or Makers? After searching the internet ...
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Elihu (who helped Job) is Yitzhak?

In the Yerushalmi Sotah (5:8) it says that Elihu ben Berachel was Yitzhak Avinu, who was niftar according to my calculations 10 years before Yaacov + fam descended to Egypt, which was around 93-94 ...
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Why did Ashkenazi Jews not adopt the custom of reading the Book of Job in synagogue on Tisha B'Av, as Sephardim do?

I understand that Sephardim have the custom of reading the Book of Job on Tisha B'Av. Is there any historic discussion among Ashkenazi rabbis regarding why the practice was not adopted by them?
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What is the precise translation of the word ארשע?

The pasuk in Iyov 10:7 states: עַל דַּעְתְּךָ כִּי לֹא אֶרְשָׁע וְאֵין מִיָּדְךָ מַצִּיל Chabad.org translates: It is in Your knowledge that I will not be condemned, but no one can save [me] ...
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Why aren't Job or Psalms 90 in the Pentateuch?

In the Tanakh, the Jewish Biblical Canon, there are three categories of works: the Torah of Moses, and what are know as the 'Prophets' and 'Writings'. This categorization is outlined and mentioned in ...
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The Prophets from Job Primarily Addressed Gentiles?

Bava Bathra 15b (original text here) says that there were seven prophets that primarily prophesied for gentiles, including Job and his four friends. Is the Talmud saying that the book of Job speaks ...
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If Moses wrote the Book of Job, was he Job's contemporary and writing history or is the Book an inspirational work of fiction?

The Talmud at Bava Basra 14b-15b teaches that Moses wrote the Book of Job before the Exodus. If so, was he a contemporary and a witness to Job's suffering, was he describing a historical figure he ...
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Eliphaz and Bildad Zophar

Iyov 42:9: וַיֵּלְכוּ אֱלִיפַז הַתֵּימָנִי וּבִלְדַּד הַשּׁוּחִי צֹפַר הַנַּעֲמָתִי וַיַּעֲשׂוּ כַּאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר אֲלֵיהֶם ה׳ In the JPS translation: So Eliphaz the Temanite and Bildad the ...
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On what basis do we understand references to Orion and the Pleiades in Iyov?

Iyov 38:31-32 reads: הַתְקַשֵּׁר מַעֲדַנּוֹת כִּימָה אוֹ מוֹשְׁכוֹת כְּסִיל תְּפַתֵּחַ: . הֲתֹצִיא מַזָּרוֹת בְּעִתּוֹ וְעַיִשׁ עַל בָּנֶיהָ תַנְחֵם: Can you tie the chains of the Pleiades or loose ...
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Why do Sifrei Emes use different taamim?

I know that the Sifrei Emes (Tehillim, Mishlei, Iyov) use a different system of taamim. Why is this? What is it about these books that makes it that they cannot — or should not — use the ...
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What does the term "sons of G-d" mean?

The term "sons of G-d" בני האלהים is found 5 times in the Hebrew Bible, once in Genesis (6:2), three times in Job (1:6, 2:1 and 38:7) and one time in Psalms (29:1). What does it mean? Does it have the ...