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Seemingly Hefker Esrog - used for the Mitzva

This past Erev Succos I arrived at a local synagogue that had a fellow selling Lulavim and Esrogim in their Simcha hall. The fellow left three Esrogim (not in the greatest condition - yet Kosher) on ...
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Is taking disposable utensils considered stealing?

My friends and I are debating whether or not stockpiling disposable utensils from our university dining hall would be considered גזלה (eg taking 10 spoons at once to use for cereal in your own room). ...
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Who is responsible for accidental theft caused by a false claim?

There's a public pantry in one's office that has a shared refrigerator. Someone opens the fridge and sees a container of milk that is usually not there. He asks a co-worker if he can use it and he ...
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On making restitution for stolen objects

A person steals a beam to build a house. The Torah says: Dismantle the house and give the beam back to its owner: When one has sinned, he realizes his guilt and restores what he got through robbery ...
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How to determine a trespasser's intent from a Halachic Perspective?

How do we determine a trespasser's intent from a Halachic Perspective? The Rambam writes: If it is clear to the house-owner that the thief who breaks in will not kill him and instead is only ...
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According to Ramban, why is גזל part of the ז מצות בני נח?

One of the ז מצות בני נח is דינים. According to the Ramban on parshat vayishlach (34:13) the laws that were counted [as one] of the seven commandments that the Children of Noach were commanded is ...
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Benefiting from stolen

Situation 1) Let's suppose some thief takes the money from someone, then he puts that money again in the market, people would be using stolen money. Situation 2) Let's suppose this thief gives or ...
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Is downloading pirated music stealing?

Either way, it should be frowned upon as not a nice thing to do, but would it actually be assur?
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Stealing cigarettes

Say that Reuven smokes. Shimon knows that smoking causes lung cancer, and has tried everything he can think of to help Reuven stop. For that matter, he's gotten the other ten Shevatim, the Avos, and ...
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The Heinz Dilemma in Halacha [duplicate]

A famous Kohlberg dilemma goes something like this: Heinz’s wife is dying and there’s a drug that may be able to save her. Jack cannot afford the drug. Can Heinz steal the drug to treat his wife? ...
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Is it forbidden to buy bad merchandise in order to get a refund?

The background: I bought neodymium magnets from China off of ebay. The magnets were NOT neodymium and the item was not as good as I expected. This is a common Chinese practice on ebay. The Chinese ...
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is it theft to enter shul with contraband?

In this answer, the image below appears. Ignoring the issue of the propriety of "non-kosher" phones, is the sign correct that it can ban entry with something not used in the shul, and that entry with ...
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Secular law vs. Halacha: is this theft?

In a case where secular law is at odds with Halacha, and one goes to a secular court to claim that which he is entitled to in secular law but not by Halacha, I know that he is transgressing chilul ...
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Avraham's different approaches to kidnapping

I find something very strange. Lot gets kidnapped; Avraham goes to war to get him back. Sarah his wife gets kidnapped; he does and says nothing. What is with this very strange discrepancy?
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Is Hamas equaled to Gezel for Gentiles?

The Torah says the Earth was filled with Hamas before the flood and [because that was equaled to Gezel] what caused G-d to get angry and wipe the humanity out. In our Halachah (B"K 62), Hamas is ...
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Ben Noach Stealing less then a Perutah

The Medrash Rabbah בראשית ל''א ס''ק ה says that what the people of the Dor Hamabul did in order not to have to be punished by their courts is to steal less that a Prutah (minimal Monetary Value) which ...
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Confusing Gzeilah and Gneivah in the Gemara (Bava Qama 96b)

I wonder if someone can help me with a gemara question? I’m revising the ninth perek of Bava Qama and on 96b the gemara explains a passage in the mishna in a way that strikes me as totally incongruous....
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Does 'thou shalt not steal' refer to general theft or specifically to kidnapping?

I admit that I sometimes just can't keep my fingers to myself. I felt thirsty so I took a refreshing ginger ale from my neighbour's freezer. I typed into Google 'thou shall not steal' after realizing ...
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According to the opinions that playing cards is not stealing, would cheating in the game be considered stealing?

While most halachic authorities consider gambling and card games to be stealing, according to the opinion(s) that permit it, would cheating in the game qualify as stealing? Since cheating is a ...
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Getting something that requires you to be over 18 when you’re not

Are there any sources that would constitute the following as stealing/gezel: If one buys a product that the website requires one to be 18 years or older to purchase and is underage? So let’s say you ...
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Is not returning equipment to non-Jews considered theft?

If a non-Jew gave you equipment to use for a job, after the job is complete, is not returning the equipment considered theft or simply not returning a lost item? After the fact, is returning it ...
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Stealing an idol-worshipper's only food to save yourself

In a desert where there is no water, can one take (steal) water from an idol worshipper causing him to very likely die, to be able to stay alive? I know the answer when one has no personal use for ...
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Is taking public property or abandoned belongings considered stealing?

Let's say a person moves out and leaves some belongings (for instance food, books, other personal items) for public consumption - be it with or without a note that it is for free (why would anyone put ...
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Is armed bank robbery considered Gezel or Gnevah?

Halachicly, Is armed bank robbery, in working hours, where the robbers wear masks and are unidentified, considered Gezel or Gnevah? I'm confused with Rambam's definitions in Hilchos Gnevah 1.
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“Karka Einah Nigzeles” (land can't be stolen) - really?

Borrowing is just renting without paying for it. Since you can rent land, you should be able to borrow it. If you can borrow something, you can borrow it without permission. Borrowing without ...
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Why would one who redeems someone else's firstborn donkey be able to keep it, if he's effectively forcing the owner into a sale?

Bechoros 11a rules that one may redeem someone else's firstborn donkey on their behalf. The Gemara asks: If someone were to do this, who gets to keep the donkey? Now, there's a dispute between R' ...
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Is murder allowed for someone who is stealing?

Under how I have interpreted United States laws I believe murder is allowed if someone is stealing in certain circumstances. It is used as an act of protection and self-defense. Is this allowed ...
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A female thief is not sold to make restitution — so what happens instead?

The mishna in Sotah 3:8 says, in a list of differences in halacha between men and women: A man is sold for his theft [i.e., to repay it], a woman is not sold for her theft. (Sefaria translation) ...
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In the Bible, why did robbers bother tunneling into houses to rob them?

Exodus 22:1 speaks about the robber who was found "tunnelling in" to someone's house (vis-a-vis self-defense). Is that just a figure of speech, or did they actually go to that much trouble? (What ...
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Daled v'Hei: Repeating a sin?

The fine of Daled v'Hei ("4 and 5") is awarded to a person who not only stole a sheep or cow (respectively), but also sold or shechted it (Shemos 21:37). Rava (BK 68a) explains that it's because he "...
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If a non-Jew steals is he liable to the death penalty?

Stealing is a Noahide commandment. If a non-Jew violates a Noahide commandment, he is condemned to be put to death. Does this mean that if he steals a shave perutah ( שוה פרוטה, a tiny amount) or ...
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How does one resolve/repent from cheating on a test (exam)?

According to R' Moshe Feinstein as cited in this answer, cheating on a school test/examination can be considered theft from a future employer. E.g. if you get the degree by cheating on a math test, ...
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Is selling something at a large profit ona'ah (wronging another)?

What would sources say about the following scenario: let’s say you buy a pen for about $20 and two erasers for $5 each, equaling $30 in total. The person who bought these things sells them for $40, ...
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Pikuach nefesh vs. muktzeh on Shabbat

I am reading the memoirs of a rabbi, who spent roughly 10 years in the United states in the '50s and the '60s. He claims that after the Kennedy assassination the atmosphere was so strained that he was ...
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Gezel in Rabbinical regulations

In the Laws of Shabbos there are multiple layers of Rabbinical prohibitions built one on top of others to prevent possible transgression of Shabbos, for example, Muktze, or playing musical instruments,...
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Who’s stealing from whom?

Reuven is head of an institution and is paid by the board for specific hours of work for the members. Reuven is late every day by 15 minutes. The members complain to the board that Reuven gives 15 ...
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Is using a parent's hidden object stealing?

Let’s say a mom has food hidden in her makeup kit in her bedroom and her son finds it and eats it. I’ve heard somewhere that kids are allowed to use various things in the home of their parents. So, ...
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Copying and Pasting

I want to make a video about how the Zohar knew the Earth was round and had many other information about the Earth they could of never known. According to sources, would copying the verses of the ...
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Taking old hardware from a corporation

There are many items that are no longer tracked by the corporation. If there is an audit they would rather get rid of these items than try to track them now. In addition, aside from audits this ...
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May I use my neighbor's Wi-Fi without asking permission?

My neighbor has never set up password protection on his wireless router. If I wanted, I could wirelessly connect to his high-speed Internet service. May I use his Internet service without asking him ...
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If …אין אדם נוגע במוכן לחבירו, then why is there an איסור of השגת גבול / יורד לאומנות חבירו to infringe on someone else's parnasah?

Gemara Yoma 38b גמרא יומא לח עמוד ב אין אדם נוגע במוכן לחבירו... אפי' כמלא נימא Everyone has a portion designated for him by God, and the individual is privileged to receive what is coming ...
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Switching movies in a Movie Theater

Are there any sources that would constitute the following as gezel/stealing: If you purchase a movie ticket to let’s say Spider-Man and you go to watch Spongebob, and both movie tickets are the same ...
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Can anyone make their own Beis Din [duplicate]

This morning I did Hafaros Nedarim, where a panel of 3 people from my shul became 'Dayanim' and were Matir my Nedarim. Considering these were just regular people from my shul, this gave me the ...
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Obligated to return to a non-Jew what was stolen by accident?

After renting a place from a non-Jew, I realized I left with a small object accidentally. Am I obligated to return it as a "stolen" object, or is it considered a "lost" object that I am not obligated (...
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In what case is stealing permissible in Judaism?

In what case is stealing permissible in Judaism? For example, is it a sin for a Jew to steal in case he doesn't have an income or a job? (and of course it is hard or impossible to find an alternative)...
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Stealing in the House of your parents?

If a child lives in his parent’s home, and uses the stuff in the house, eats the food in the house, etc, what can be used to say that he is not stealing? For example, how can a child live in his ...
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Is eating food before purchase in a supermarket considered stealing? [duplicate]

Would it be considered stealing by the Torah to take let’s say, chips from a grocery store, open it up and start eating it before you paid for it? I know this is a common thing that people do. Is it ...
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Having fun with telemarketers

Growing up, we had a separate home phone line that was listed in the phonebook and had a distinctive ring. So we knew when someone was calling us who had gotten our number out of the phonebook. This ...
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What type of theft does Lo Signov refer to?

One of the Aseres Hadevarim (more commonly referred to as "Dibros") is "לא תגנוב". I can think of different types of theft / Geneivah such as stealing money/possesions, Geneivas Daas, and kidnapping. ...
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Why didn't Rochel just destroy the idols?

Instead of stealing Lavan's idols (Bereshis 31:19), why didn't she merely destroy them?