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prayers for rain and dew in the second and ninth blessing of the Amida

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Praying for rain in the Diaspora

Why on this year (and on other years that precede civil leap years) do we start praying for rain in the Diaspora (by inserting the phrase 'Vetein tal umatar") at maariv of December 5 and not maariv of ...
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When is “vesain tal umotor” said in Australia?

When is "vesain tal umotor" said in the Southern Hemisphere eg Australia?
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Saying Mashiv HaRuach in the Southern Hemisphere

In the Southern Hemisphere (Brazil, Australia, South Africa, etc.) in October they are heading into the summer. Do they say Mashiv HaRuach at this time of the year or do they say it from Pesach to ...
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What does “give a blessing on the face of the earth” mean?

The ninth blessing of the weekday Amida as recited between Pesach and the rainy season contains, in some traditions, the phrase: ותן ברכה על פני האדמה and give a blessing on the face of the earth ...
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Not saying v'sain bracha

In Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim Siman 117 Sif 3 it says that if someone said "v'sain tal u'matir l'vracha" in the bracha of Bircas Hashanim during the summer months then he must pray again (this is ...
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How to calculate 60 days from tekufat tishri for any given year?

I'm trying to pin down an algorithm for calculating when to start saying ותן טל ומטר in diaspora. (In Israel it begins 7 Cheshvan.) I've gotten that we need to know how many centuries passed since ...
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Morid HaGeshem or Morid HaGoshem

What is the correct pronunciation HaGeshem or HaGoshem?
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Where can I find the current water level of the Kineret to see the effect of mentioning Morid Hageshem?

Throughout the winter we pray Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem. My understanding is that it is said for Eretz Yisroel dwellers (unlike V'sain Tal Umatar LBracha which is said for your locale). As we ...
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Why do we say only “Morid Hatal” without words “Mashiv haru'ach” before it?

During winter months, we say "You make the wind blow and the rain fall". During the summer, we say only "You make the dew fall." Why don't we include the beginning part about blowing the wind? I ...
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Why don't we say “Misod” for Geshem and Tal?

On Rosh Hashana and Yom Kippur, the Shat"z says a short paragraph at the beginning of his repetition that starts with the words "מסוד חכמים ונבונים," which is an explanation for the insertion of extra ...
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Tal UMatar - for whom?

According to the build-up in this question the point of Tal UMatar is to pray for good rains in one's local area. The same seems to be assumed in other questions and especially a couple of different ...
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Mashiv HaRuach - V'Sain (veten) Tal Umatar

Why do we start saying Mashiv HaRuach on Shemini Atzeres yet we do not say V'Sain Tal Umatar until Dec 4 / Dec 5 (In Chutz L'Aretz)? Why should they not be on the same day when they are similar ...
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On which evening should we start saying “V'tein tal u'matar li'vrachah”? (The ArtScroll siddur disagrees with The Book of Our Heritage.) [duplicate]

If a Jew lives outside of Israel, they should start saying "וְתֵן טַל וּמָטָר לִבְרָכָה" ("And give dew and rain for a blessing") during evening prayers on a certain evening in December. Various ...
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Which version of “Barech alenu” to say on Shabas or yom tov?

We say the "tal" (dew) prayer at musaf on the first day of Pesach, inaugurating the season in which we no longer mention rain in the amida prayer. However, this is immediately relevant to only "mashiv ...
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If dew is automatic why do we have Tefillas Tal?

I heard in a dvar Torah that Tal, dew, is automatic (or much more so than rain). This is connected to the view that Pesach represents אתערותא דלעילא that is that HaShem helps us even though we are not ...
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Etnachta on גֶשם vs. גָשם

I have heard that the reason that many siddurim print משיב הרוח ומוריד הגשם with a segol is because it is more common for גשם with an etnachta to be vocalised that way, rather than with a kamatz. Is ...
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How does Rambam explain why we don't ask for rain until the end of sukkos

The Mishnah in Sukkah 2:9 gives a parable to the situation of rain falling on Sukkos: מָשְׁלוּ מָשָׁל, לְמָה הַדָּבָר דּוֹמֶה, לְעֶבֶד שֶׁבָּא לִמְזוֹג כּוֹס לְרַבּוֹ, וְשָׁפַךְ לוֹ קִיתוֹן עַל ...
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Israeli Chazzan outside of Israel says “tal umotor” at the right time for him but not us

We know that the shaliach tzibbur must follow the local custom even to the extent of his own silent Amidah . What should be done, then, when a resident of Israel who is acting as shaliach tzibbur ...