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Prophecy about the destruction of the second temple?

Are there any prophecies about the destruction of the second temple?
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Who else says the Jews violate the Ten Commandments during the first Temple

I always understood, based on the gemarra in Yoma 9b, that the Jews were guilty of the three cardinal sins during the First Temple period (murder, illicit relations, and idol worship). However, I ...
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Is the Arch of Titus mentioned by Chazal?

Is there any mention in Rabbinic sources (whether by the Tanaim, Amoraim, Rishonim, Achronim) about the Arch of Titus?
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What does "Britain" have to do with "the destruction of the second Beis HaMikdosh"?

Abarbanel on Torah, Deuteronomy 28:49, writes "Now he mentions the destruction of the second Beis HaMikdosh. From afar. Who came from Britain and other distant countries speedily." I only ...
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Since the destruction does the Shechinoh dwell in the world? Kinoh suggests no; halocho suggests yes

Kinoh 12 of the day of 9th of Av refers to the destruction of the Temple and the fact that G-d's presence (Shechinoh) is no longer to be found in this world. אָהֳלִי אֲשֶׁר כּוֹנַנְתָּ מוּל מָכוֹן ...
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Rachel should have known about the Churban Hamikdash even if she was buried in the Mearas Hamachpeila

Rashi in Genesis 48:7 אקברה שם. וְלֹא הוֹלַכְתִּיהָ אֲפִלּוּ לְבֵית לֶחֶם לְהַכְנִיסָהּ לָאָרֶץ, וְיָדַעְתִּי שֶׁיֵּשׁ בְּלִבְּךָ עָלַי; אֲבָל דַּע לְךָ שֶׁעַל פִּי הַדִּבּוּר קְבַרְתִּיהָ שָׁם, ...
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The destruction of the Second Temple in the Mishnah?

Is there any explicit mention of the destruction of the Second Temple within the Mishnah specifically? If so, examples of passages? If not, why wouldn't such a momentous occasion be discussed within ...
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Who would convert Nebuzardan?

In Gemara Gittin 57b we find a story about Nebuzardan "taking revenge" for the murder of Zechariah Hanavi. To make a long story short, after he literally slaughters thousands of Jewish men, women ...
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Do we, today, cause the Churban?

When, in musaf for Shabbat Rosh Chodesh, we recall the destruction of the Beit Hamikdash, the text indicates not just that our forefathers were responsible for sinning that caused the destruction, or ...
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What Caused Jerusalem to be Destroyed?

The Gemara states the following: Abaye said: Jerusalem was destroyed only because people desecrated the Shabbos in it (Shabbos 119b) Rabbi Abbahu said: Jerusalem was destroyed only because its ...
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When did the daily sacrifices cease being offered in temple?

The daily sacrifices which were carried out in the temple did they cease after the destruction of the temple(AD70) or they had already ceased well before that. If they had ceased before the ...
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Is it true the book of Daniel says that the Messiah will arrive before the destruction of the second temple?

As title says, is it true the book of Daniel says that the Messiah will arrive before the destruction of the second temple? I see this justification being used by Christians in order to claim Judaism ...
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What sad/terrible events actually took place on the 9th of Av?

I have heard that Tish'a B'av is a date on which many bad things happened to the Jewish people, and that is why we mourn on that day. What are they? (Sources please...)
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What is the explanation for the discrepancy between Seder Olam's chronology and that of historical scholarship?

Rabbi Harav Yaakov Medan (etzion.org.il/en/chapter-12b-daniels-prayer-continued) states: 'According to historical scholarship, the second year of the Persian Darius, when the rebuilding of the Second ...
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The cutoff for eating חדש was delayed after the בית המקדש; what about the cutoff for its taking root?

We used to bring a flour-offering called the "omer" on the sixteenth of Nisan. The halacha, as practiced when we had a bes hamikdash, is that any grain that took root after the omer is brought one ...
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How do we have s'micha today if the Romans broke the chain?

I heard that Romans broke the smicha chain for one to be a proper rabbi in the old sense, and I heard that rabbis started after the second temple was destroyed. So i'm confused, the two things I ...
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What is the difference between Hashlucha and Shenishtalcha?

In the musafs for Shabbat-Rosh Chodesh and the Yomim Tovim we bemoan our inability to offer the sacrifices because of the destruction of the temple. (That we do so only on the Rosh Chodesh which falls ...
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Why was the second Beit HaMikdash destroyed?

What reasons are given in Talmudic and Midrashic literature as to why the second Beit HaMikdash was destroyed?
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Why didn't Titus consort with someone worse than a harlot?

In the Talmud (Gittin 56b) it states that upon entering the holy of holies Titus had relations with a harlot, to defile that place. Is there a reason he chose to consort with a harlot in that spot as ...
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What prompted the absent-Sanhedrin-head decree in Rosh Hashana 4:4?

R' Yochanan ben Zakai, in leading the Jewish people during and immediately after the Destruction of the Second Temple, issued many decrees aimed at responding to the new post-Temple reality and ...
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What are these objects?

I recently went to Italy with my family, and we saw the arc of titus in Rome. I saw the famous engraving of the romans taking the Menorah from the Beis Hamikdash. But I noticed these weird objects ...
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Shouldn't we laugh as Rabbi Akiva?

I don't want to be disrespectful, but I remember the story of when Rabbi Akiva saw the temple destroyed with foxes walking where the Kodesh HaKodashim used to be. He laughed because even though ...
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Movie picturing the destruction of the holy temple?

Lately, I have been telling my 3-year-old son about the building, destruction, rebuilding cycle of the Beis Hamikdash (holy temple in Jerusalem). He is wondering how it would have looked. Are there ...
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What is the modern Jewish attitude towards the Zealots and Sicarii?

One of the leading factions in the Jewish Revolt of 66-70 was the Zealot movement, and its splinter group, the Sicarii. I would imagine that the attitude towards them is somewhat complicated, or at ...
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How did the Jewish people understand and make sense of the destruction of the Second Temple?

Since I began studying the history of the Christian faith, and the relation between Judaism and Christianity, I have been struck by the idea of the Second Temple's destruction. I simply can't imagine ...
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Charbonah related to destruction?

Charbonah is the person who reminded Ahashverosh about the tree that Haman made to hang Mordechai on. I realize that the names of most of the people mentioned in the Megillah are Persian. However, ...
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No day without its curse

The Gemara (Sotah 48a) says, “from the day that the Beis HaMikdosh was destroyed, there has been no day without its curse.” 1a) What does the Gemara mean? 1b) What does it's curse mean?
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Rabi Yochanan Ben Zakai, or Josephus?

Josephus in The War of the Jews (Book 3 - 8:9) records a story of how he meets Vespasian, tells him that he will become ruler, and Titus will take over his position. Vespasian, although sceptical at ...
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Jerusalem was only destroyed because of these 8 things - how?

In Masechet Shabbat 119b, it brings 8 statements saying "Jerusalem was only destroyed because x". Each time, x changes. How can it say that Jerusalem was only destroyed for one particular thing - 8 ...
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Beis HaMikdosh and Shechinah

I heard some mention the Gemara in Gittin which says that Titus y"m went into the קודש הקדשים with a harlot. He slashed the curtains, opened a sefer torah and had relations with the harlot. The Jews ...
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Why don't we remember the Churban in Shabbat and Rosh Chodesh musaf?

The requirement to remember the churban is incumbent upon Jews every day (top of page 2) and is especially important at times of joy. Aside from the practices of leaving a wall unfinished/unpainted, ...
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Josephus' Fall of Jerusalem

Is this book commonly accepted in the Jewish world as an accurate description of the events surrounding destruction of the Beit HaMikdash? I'm particularly interested in its portrayal of the behavior ...
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Did they daven after the destruction of the first temple?

I learned that tefilla was established in place of the korbanos after the destruction of the second temple. Did any sort of similar thing, meaning standardized prayer service, become instituted after ...
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Why did R' Yochanan ben Zakkai ask for multiple things?

In Gittin 56b there is a conversation between Vespasian and R' Yochanan ben Zakkai. Vespasian offers to grant a wish of R' Yochanan's אלא בעי מינאי מידי דאתן לך R' Yochanan proceeds to ask for 3 ...
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Churban Bayis Sheini Not on Tisha B'Av?

I recently heard that the destruction of the 2nd Temple was not actually on Tisha B'av, the date of the destruction of the 1st Temple, but that it was pretty close, so the rabbis had it commemorated ...
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Did Nehemia know the second temple wouldn't last?

Did Nehemia know that the second temple wouldn't last? What someone says suggests he did; it's based on the book of Nehemia or something, but I can't read Hebrew. In general, did anyone know that ...
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Mentioning our sins on Shabbos Rosh Chodesh

During every Shemoneh Esrei of mussaf, we pray that the Beis Hamikdash be rebuilt. However, only on Yom Tov do we mention that it was destroyed due to our sins - ומפני חטאינו. On Shabbos, and on Rosh ...
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Why did Yosef cry about the future destruction of the Batei HaMikdash at that particular moment?

After Yosef revealed himself to his brothers, he fell upon Binyamin's neck and wept, and Rashi comments there that he was weeping about the future destruction of the two Batei HaMikdash. But why did ...
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The silence of the Rabbis -- Should they have defended Bar Kamtza?

In Gittin 55b-56a, we read that a fellow named Bar Kamtza was humiliated by a host of a party in public view of all, including the rabbis. Bar Kamtza received an invitation to the party by mistake, ...
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Were there any sages who supported the Zealots during the siege of Jerusalem?

In Gittin 56a-b, we read how the sages warned the Zealots (a.k.a. the Biryonim) to not wage war with the Romans who were holding Jerusalem under siege, but that the Biryonim set fire to the store ...
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Mitzvah of Ner Channukah -- not until after churban habayis?

Someone said over today (in then name of the Sfes Emes) that the mitzvah of Ner Channukah didn't officially "start" until the 2nd Beis HaMikdash was destroyed, since it was established as somewhat of ...
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May one walk under the Arch of Titus?

I have heard that it is prohibited (or at least that the custom is not) to walk under the Arch of Titus in Rome. Is this accurate? If so, what is the source? Would it make a difference if a large ...
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What happened to the utensils from the Second Bais Hamikdash?

After the second temple was destroyed what happened to the keilim? When was the last time they were recordedly seen and where do historians or other academics believe they are today?
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What do the sources say about internalising the loss of the Beis HaMikdosh? [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: What is the best way to visualize the Churban Bais HaMikdash? It is difficult for me to feel the loss of the Beis HaMikdosh. Even with some of the practical advice provided in ...
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Is it heresy to follow secular dating on the destruction of the first Temple?

There is a discrepancy between rabbinic and secular sources regarding when the first Temple was destroyed -- a difference of some 165 years or so, which are called the "Missing Years." My question is ...
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What was so bad about stealing the carpenter's wife?

The gemarah in gittin (58a) describes a story wherein a carpenter's apprentice manipulates a series of unfortunate events (for the carpenter) which end up with the carpenter's wife now married to the ...
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Prediction of the destruction of the Beis Hamikdash - seemingly out of place

On Lev. 26:19, ושברתי את גאון עזכם - "I will break the pride of your strength," Rashi (citing Sifra) explains that this refers to the Beis Hamikdash. But this is still fairly early on in the cycle of ...
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Seeking source of explanation of ולא יכל יוסף להתאפק

וְלֹא יָכֹל יוֹסֵף לְהִתְאַפֵּק — Yosef could not forbear (Gen. 45:1) — but had he done so, had he completed the brothers' reconciliation that he had started, then the kingdom would never ...
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בָּא אֵלַי הַפָּלִיט מִירוּשָׁלַ‍ִם ... How late was he?

In Yechezkel 33:21: וַיְהִי בִּשְׁתֵּי עֶשְׂרֵה שָׁנָה בָּעֲשִׂרִי בַּחֲמִשָּׁה לַחֹדֶשׁ לְגָלוּתֵנוּ בָּא אֵלַי הַפָּלִיט מִירוּשָׁלַ‍ִם לֵאמֹר הֻכְּתָה הָעִיר That is, on the Fifth of Teves of ...
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What was the purpose of the Temple's destruction?

There are plenty of explanations about which sins led to the destruction of the Temple. My question is not about which sins they were, but what does the destruction of the Temple do to solve the ...
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