Questions tagged [bentching]

Questions about the the blessings of thanks recited after eating bread products. Hebrew: Bircat Hamazon. Also known as Grace After Meals.

Filter by
Sorted by
Tagged with
1 vote
1 answer
48 views

Which sources deal with someone who said “bayom Chag haSukkos Hazeh” in “Yaaleh veyovo” in Grace after Meals on Shemini Atzeres

In Grace after Meals on Shemini Atzeres, someone said “bayom Chag haSukkos Hazeh” instead of “bayom Shemini Chag Hoatzeres Hazeh” in “Yaaleh veyovo”. My LOR told me that a man has to go back whereas a ...
Avrohom Yitzchok's user avatar
3 votes
0 answers
103 views

Cut-off birkat hamazon

As a complement to this question on Shortened Birkat Hamazon, I would like to better understand the practice I saw of stopping Birkat Hamazon after the fourth blessing on Shabbat and not saying the ...
mbloch's user avatar
  • 47.7k
1 vote
1 answer
770 views

Shortened Birkat Hamazon

I see mentions of a short version of Birkat Hamazon ("Birkat Hamazon Hakatzar"). R Yitzchak Abadi wrote one "based on the Rambam and other Rishonim", R Yosef Eliyahu Henkin is mentioned here as having ...
mbloch's user avatar
  • 47.7k
7 votes
2 answers
146 views

if someone never eats bread during the week, only on Shabbos and he is not sure whether he said Retzai or not, does he repeat Birkhas Hamazon?

The Mishnah Berurah in OC 188:6:16 - קפח,ו,טז says that if someone said Birkhas Hamazon on Shabbos and he is not sure whether he said Retzai or not, he must repeat the Birkhas Hamazon because we ...
RibbisRabbiAndMore's user avatar
2 votes
0 answers
84 views

Why, in זימון, is it customary to change from "רבותי נברך" to "ברשות מרנן ורבנן ורבותי"?

Why, at the beginning of ברכת הזימון is it comon custom that the leader opens with "רבותי נברך" and later he continues with "ברשות מרנן ורבנן ורבותי" . Why, at the beginning does he only address ...
RibbisRabbiAndMore's user avatar
-1 votes
1 answer
118 views

Definition of "together" regarding zimmun

Brachot 45a says that 3 people who ate "as one" are required to do zimmun ("Rabbotai Nevarech", etc.) What constitutes "together"? For example, can any of these be done? There is a rule that if the ...
DanF's user avatar
  • 70k
5 votes
0 answers
57 views

As the מזמן, should I say "ברשות אבי מורי" before "סבי מורי" or the other way around?

When eating with my parents at my my grandparents' (father's parents) house, if I am asked to be מזמן, should I say “ברשות אבי מורי וסבי מורי„ or “ברושת סבי מורי ואבי מורי„?
Benjy Wiener's user avatar
11 votes
2 answers
172 views

What is the intention behind "Shamayim" in the Zimun?

In Nusach Edut HaMizrach, in the Zimun before Birchat Hamazon, after the leader says: הַב לָן וְנִבְרִיךְ לְמַלְכָּא עִלָּאָה קַדִּישָׁא: give us [a cup of wine] and we will recite the blessings to ...
Menachem's user avatar
  • 43.9k
0 votes
1 answer
141 views

Birkat HaMazon with everyone in mind?

I have been by a couple Sepharadi households for Shabbat and when it was time for Birkat HaMazon the head of the household alone would read the entire thing outloud noting they would have everyone at ...
Ariel's user avatar
  • 1
0 votes
1 answer
123 views

Repeating if one skipped Al Ha Nissim on purpose

If someone purposely skipped Al Ha Nissim on Purim or Chankah do they have to repeat the Amdiah/Bircas Ha Mazon? I'm aware that if it was on accident they do not have to go back and repeat it.
Fei23's user avatar
  • 1,737
1 vote
1 answer
114 views

Is there importance to the text's not demanding bentching?

We are commanded in the Torah to say birkat hamazon (though the obligation from the Torah requires one level of satiety while the derobonon obligation is different). This obligation is derived from ...
rosends's user avatar
  • 37.8k
3 votes
1 answer
278 views

After-bracha on <kezayis of motzi, plus other food

If someone ate some motzi with other food as a snack (let's say half a filled pita pocket), what, if any, after-bracha should he make? Assume he ate a kezayis of the other food in 4 minutes, but not ...
SAH's user avatar
  • 19.6k
1 vote
0 answers
27 views

Bentching with wine on the table [duplicate]

If one is not benching on a Kos is it forbidden to do so if a bottle of wine is not removed from the table?
PB7's user avatar
  • 19
2 votes
1 answer
290 views

"HaRachaman hu yevarech es avi mori..." - Questions

There is a part in the third bracha in bentching which goes like this: הרחמן הוא יברך את אבי מורי בעל הבית הזה ואת אמי מורתי בעלת הבית הזה אותם ואת ביתם ואת זרעם ואת כל אשר להם אותנו ואת כל אשר ...
ezra's user avatar
  • 18.5k
2 votes
2 answers
88 views

Why the double language of "all his creations that he created"

The first blessing of birkat hamazon concludes with the statement that God prepares sustenance for "all of his creations that he created". What is the explanation for this double, redundant sounding ...
rikitikitembo's user avatar
1 vote
0 answers
538 views

What is the minimum text of birkat hamazon one needs to say to be yotze?

Let's say you're in the army or something and need to bench quickly and be on your way. Is there a "havineinu" equivalent for benching (beyond just stopping after the fourth bracha) that you could use ...
eliyahu's user avatar
  • 373
2 votes
0 answers
93 views

Ending stanza in Birkat HaMazon

In some Sephardic/Edut HaMizrach siddurim, there is a sentence as one concludes that one reads "ברוך הזן, ברוך שולחן, ברוך משה בן עמרם". Hebrew Wikipedia records it as the custom of the Kurdistan ...
Lior's user avatar
  • 97
4 votes
1 answer
152 views

Does one need to get permission from ALL the Kohanim to recite Birkas HaMazon?

When eating a meal in the company of a Kohen, it is a mitzvah to have him lead the recitation of Birkas HaMazon (Shulchan Aruch OC 201:2; it is obligatory according to others (see Shulchan Aruch Harav ...
user avatar
1 vote
2 answers
366 views

Saying Bircat Hamazon after the end of Shabbat

good afternoon. In my question book for the giur I found the following question ... If you eat the third meal and the time for Shabbat has already passed, do you still say the additions of Shabbat to ...
We lo ira's user avatar
4 votes
2 answers
285 views

Can a woman lead davening/bentching in a family setting?

Can a woman lead davening or bentching (zimmun) if all the people present are her immediate family? Or is it assur? I understand that it would for sure be assur if the people were not her family. As ...
ezra's user avatar
  • 18.5k
1 vote
1 answer
67 views

Bircas Hamazon exempts al hagefen

When one makes kiddush friday night then has a meal afterwards, they don't make an al hagefen on the wine/grape juice that they drank by kiddush. This is because (from what I always heard/understood) ...
Yehoshua's user avatar
  • 15.9k
2 votes
1 answer
83 views

Making an after bracha before leaving your place

Where does it say that if one (who is eating alone) wishes to leave in the middle of a seudah (even if they will return after some time -- however before the time that is allowed for them to make an ...
Yehoshua's user avatar
  • 15.9k
8 votes
1 answer
717 views

Said al hamichya instead of birkas hamazon. What do I do?

If one had 'pas habah bekisnin' thinking that he needs to make a mezonos followed by al hamichya, and after doing so discovers that he should have washed, said hamotzi and then birkas hamazon, what ...
Moshe Steinberg's user avatar
2 votes
1 answer
283 views

ashkenazi style melodies to mizrachi birkat hamazon?

My wife has an Ashkenazi background and loved singing Birkat Hamazon at the shabbat table with a traditional western melody (similar to http://www.chabad.org/multimedia/media_cdo/aid/692733/jewish/...
RonP's user avatar
  • 1,936
1 vote
0 answers
16 views

4 Pesukim between Shir Hama'alos (or Al Naharos Bovel) and Birkas Hamazon [duplicate]

In all Artscroll versions of Birkas Hamazon, you will find the 4 pesukim of Tehilas Hashem, Va'anachnu, Hodu laShem and Mi Y'maleil between Shir Hama'alos or Al Naharos Bovel and zimun. What is the ...
Moshe Steinberg's user avatar
1 vote
1 answer
55 views

Melech in Ya'aleh Viyovoh

In Ya'aleh Viyovoh the word Melech is included when we say any prayer, however in Birchat Hamozon in my siddur (Artscroll Ashkenaz) the word is bracketed and it says "On Rosh Hashana say Melech". Why ...
Norman Allen's user avatar
5 votes
1 answer
161 views

Why repeat birkas hamazon after omitting "yaale v'yavo" on chol hamoed

Aruch Hashulchan, OC 188:18, cites a difference of opinion regarding the following case. On Shabas which is rosh chodesh, someone says the Shabas addition in birkas hamazon (grace after the meal) but ...
msh210's user avatar
  • 73.7k
1 vote
1 answer
83 views

Should one be sure to have a bread meal on Rosh Chodesh?

Is there a source for the idea of specially having a bread meal on Rosh Chodesh so that one can say the special insertion for Rosh Chodesh in the grace after meals? related: Rosh Chodesh at home
Avrohom Yitzchok's user avatar
2 votes
0 answers
65 views

In what sense will the world to come be a Shabbat?

In Birkat Hamazon, we (Ashkenazim...I haven't looked at other texts) add a line on Shabbat, "הַרָחֲמָן הוּא יַנְחִילֵנוּ יוֹם שֶׁכֻּלוֹ שַׁבָּת וּמְנוּחָה לְחַיֵּי הָעוֹלָמִים" which translates to "...
rosends's user avatar
  • 37.8k
4 votes
3 answers
236 views

After Shabbos, is it fine to pray Maariv first, and then to say Grace after Meals once the prayer is done?

I generally eat s'uda sh'lishis between mincha and maariv, and have been reciting Grace after Meals at night, after maariv. One who does so (and says havdala in the amida of maariv) does not recite ...
msh210's user avatar
  • 73.7k
2 votes
1 answer
728 views

Bentching at a Melave Malka

Why do most Ashkenazim who wash for bread for the Melave Malka say Shir Hamaalot and Migdol (instead of Magdil) during Bentching at a Melave Malka Motzei Shabbos?
anonymous's user avatar
  • 454
3 votes
1 answer
120 views

Hatov vehametiv on a kos shel bracha?

Someone intends to bentsh on a kos, and a new wine is brought to the table at that time. For a person who generally recites HaTov v'HaMetiv, could they do so on the kos shel bracha, or does Birkas ...
Premundane's user avatar
  • 4,501
2 votes
2 answers
255 views

What does the Harachaman to replace Al Hanisim accomplish

If you forget to say Al Hanisim in bentching on Chanuka or Purim, you can add the הרחמן later to make up for it (Rama 682:1). You can also do the same thing in Shemoneh Esrei, provided that you ...
Heshy's user avatar
  • 9,116
1 vote
0 answers
100 views

Anti-Zionism in Bentching? [duplicate]

Recently at a Shabbos table I heard that the addition to shir hama'alot "Tehillat Hashem" (a compilation of four verses beginning with Psalms 145:21) was anti-zionistic and shouldn't be said. I heard ...
Gabriel's user avatar
  • 692
5 votes
2 answers
2k views

Shortened version of birkat hammazon

Anecdotally, I've eaten with people before who have recited birkat hammazon to themselves quietly and who are either record-breaking speed speakers or who are using a shortened version. I suspect the ...
Shimon bM's user avatar
  • 18.8k
10 votes
2 answers
367 views

Is there such a thing as פת מדינה?

In Bereishit, Hashem said to Adam בזעת אפך תאכל לחם This would seem to imply that bread is universal to all people. We also know that bread has a particular definition: it has to be made from one ...
Heshy's user avatar
  • 9,116
2 votes
2 answers
2k views

Birkat Hamazon: Chaverai vs Rabotai

When chanting Birkat Hamazon, I always thought it started Chaverai n'varech, but I have recently attended a Conservadox Bar Mitzvah, where they used Rabotai n'varech. Here are some images; I found the ...
AAM111's user avatar
  • 288
5 votes
2 answers
363 views

Does birkat hamazon cover dessert (and other items requiring a separate bracha rishona during the meal)?

During a bread-based meal, but before bentching (i.e. reciting birkat hamazon), I eat something (e.g. fruit, dessert, etc.) that traditionally requires a separate bracha rishona. Must I say a ...
SAH's user avatar
  • 19.6k
2 votes
1 answer
190 views

Why does Sukkot have an individualized Harachaman insert in Bentching, but not Pesach or Shavuot?

We have הרחמן הוא יקים לנו את סוכת דוד הנופלת for Sukkot. But for Pesach and Shavuot, there's one generic הרחמן הוא ינחילנו את יום שכולו טוב. Why?
user13108's user avatar
1 vote
0 answers
24 views

Standing at elokeinu in zimmun [duplicate]

Whenever I am in a situation of saying ברכת המזון with 10 people, some of the ציבור will stand for saying the word אלקנו in the זימון, others will not move at all, with lots of people somewhere in ...
Moshe Steinberg's user avatar
3 votes
1 answer
162 views

Can you abandon a personal chumra if it was based on a misunderstanding of the mitzvah?

If you established a neder and/or chazaka to do some mitzvah a certain way (i.e., by doing it that way three times in a row), but this was based on a misunderstanding--such as thinking the chumra was ...
SAH's user avatar
  • 19.6k
1 vote
2 answers
126 views

Nussach of Retse in Birkat Hamazon

I see in all sidurim in nussach of retse (BHMZ of Shabbat) "לשבת בו ולנוח בו". But recently some books changed the nussach to "לשבות בו ולנוח בו" So far I believed that the kamats ...
kouty's user avatar
  • 22.7k
0 votes
0 answers
49 views

Halachic definition of "full" (sated)

I was reading this: After the fact (if one ate between 8 Kezayitim and a definite meal), if one is not full make Al HaMichya and if one is full make Birkat HaMazon, yet, in such a case it’s ...
SAH's user avatar
  • 19.6k
3 votes
1 answer
168 views

differences of phrasing in Al hanisim: Chanuka vs. Purim

We add paragraphs to the liturgy of Chanuka and Purim, recounting the respective miracles that those holidays commemorate. We start the paragraphs as follows. Chanuka's starts: In the days of ...
msh210's user avatar
  • 73.7k
5 votes
3 answers
1k views

Blessing after bread when eating alone

When I am eating a meal alone and that meal includes bread what parts of the Birkat Hamazon do I pray? Which parts do I exclude? And please be specific. (I use the Schottenstein Artscroll siddur ...
Yairah Shalhevet's user avatar
5 votes
0 answers
363 views

Excluding water from blessing after food

One common scenario is for someone to make a berakha on water at some point in the morning and to drink the water throughout the day. Suppose during the day, the person decides to have a snack whose ...
Daniel's user avatar
  • 24.7k
2 votes
0 answers
62 views

Saying Ritzei after Shekiyah

HoRav Yisroel Belsky Shlit"a (see Mishna Berurah 299:1) permits one to eat סעודת שלישית until 20 minutes after Shekiyah. Would someone still be able to say רצה if he started eating after Shkekiyah or ...
sye81397's user avatar
  • 783
4 votes
1 answer
163 views

Are there any running commentaries on grace after meals?

I would like to know if there are any authors from the period of the rishonim or earlier who have compiled a running commentary on birkat hamazon.
user9953's user avatar
  • 177
2 votes
2 answers
977 views

Saying Birkas Hamazon after leaving your house

If one leaves his house to daven Ma'ariv before he Bentched (Birkas Hamazon) and then comes back home , may he Bentch then
sye81397's user avatar
  • 783
1 vote
1 answer
107 views

Two groups split into 2 cars and eat bread while travelling. What type of zimun do they make after rejoining?

This article delves into some details on what constitutes "eating together" for the requirement of zimun. I see that there is a dispute regarding what happens when some people leave in the middle or ...
DanF's user avatar
  • 70k