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Were B"H and B"S opinions Halachically exhaustive?

The schism between B"H and B"S is very famous in early Jewish Halachic polemics. In their times, were their opinions Halachically exhaustive, or did other (unaffiliated) rabbis practice ...
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How do we know that Beit Shammai have greater wisdom?

Yevamot 14a: ... Beit Shammai are sharper than Beit Hillel... What does it mean that Beit Shammai are sharper? Obviously, that cannot mean that they had better sources or arguments, otherwise they ...
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Beis Hillel vs Beis Shammai - so what that the latter are sharper?

Yevamot 14a: ... when do we follow the majority? It is in a case where the disputing parties are equal in wisdom to one another. Here, however, Beit Shammai are sharper than Beit Hillel, and ...
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Who says Beis Shammai don't hold of "Aseh docheh lo saaseh"?

A pretty ubiquitous concept in Torah is the idea of aseh docheh lo saaseh, that a positive mitzvah can override a negative precept. I recently saw in a contemporary sefer that Beis Shammai don't hold ...
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What was "the day" Beis Hillel and Beis Shammai disagreed?

The Shulchan Aruch OC (580:2) codifies the list of sad days some have the custom to fast for, which includes at the end: בט' בו נחלקו בית שמאי ובית הלל - The ninth of Adar is when Beis Shammai and ...
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Sources needed on Beis Shammai and Mashiach and the paths of the tribes

Does anyone know where to find the following explanations/sources? ספר השיחות תשנ''א Sefer Hasichos, Shavuos 5751 where the concept is explained of that when Mashiach comes, we will follow Beis ...
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Why did the title "Rav" appear after Hillel and Shammai?

IIRC, the word Rav appears in the Tanakh as an adjective ("עצום ורב" or "רב לכם בני לוי". Probably in Jonah 1:6 "רב החובל" it is a name?). Earlier leaders (Moses, ...
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Why only Hillel and Shammai are mentioned to have schools (Batim)?

[Pretty anonymous] pupils of Hillel and Shammai are referred to as Beit Hillel and Beit Shammai. IIRC, no pupils of other Rabbis before or after them are referred to as "Beit Rabbi X", like ...
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Why Hillel and Shammai are called "the Elder"?

Both Hillel and Shammai are referred to by the Mishna as "the Elder". Age: according to WIKI, Hillel lived to 120, but Shammai only to 80. Also, other Tannayim lived longer than 80 (R' ...
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Was Shammai a builder?

Encyclopaedia Judaica says that “Nothing is known of the early life of Shammai except for the statement that he was a builder by occupation (Shab. 31a).” But that passage, the standing on one foot ...
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What were the main principles of Hillel and Shammai's schools approach?

Is there a "unified" theory of both schools' approaches that account for the differences in their rulings in all disputes? Like a set of different principles all their rulings stem from, or their ...
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Why isn't Keilim 20:6 reckoned amongst the stringencies of Beit Hillel and the leniencies of Beit Shammai?

In Keilim 20:6, we see a disagreement between Beit Hillel and Beit Shammai (and Rabbi Akiva) as to when a floor mat (that is susceptible to midras impurity) loses its susceptibility to midras while ...
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Does בית שמאי hold a second מיאון effective?

The mishna at the start of chapter 13 of Y'vamos cites a disagreement between the schools of Shamay and Hilel about a minor girl who is married off by (for example) her mother and can refuse the ...
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Why is one obligated to the death penalty if he follows Beis Shamai

Why is it, that if one were to follow Beis Shamai's halachic opinions, he'd be obligated to the death penalty, as we see the Gemara in Brachos 11a says that: רב נחמן בר יצחק אמר עשה כדברי בית שמאי ...
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Why is the halacha like Beis Hillel?

It is a known rule that the halacha is like Beis Hillel unless explicitly stated. The Gemara (Eiruvin 13b) says Beis Hillel and Beis Shammai argued for three years until a bas kol called out and said ...
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"אלו ואלו דברי א' חיים" vs "נעשית תורה כשתי תורות" with examples

In numerous Halachic disputes I spotted two contradicting approaches: "אלו ואלו דברי א' חיים" - both approaches are legitimate and stem from the [one] living G-d. Each one is allowed to keep his way ...
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What happened in R' Chananya's penthouse (18 Dvarim)?

Speaking of Beyt Shamai, Yerushalmi Shabbat 9a also here: Background: "ואלו הן ההלכות שאמרו בעליית חנניה בן חזקיה בן גרון שעלו לבקרו ונמנו ורבו ב"ש על ב"ה ושמנה עשר דברים גזרו בו ביום:" ...
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What is "Beyt Shamai/Beyt Hilel" for citing Mishnayot?

This question is intended to clarify D.S'.question - how-can-bet-shamai-argue-on-shamai: What exactly is called "Beyt Shammay/Hillel"? We don't find this term with other great Rabbis, such as R' ...
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How can Bet Shamai argue on Shamai?

How do we explain that Bet Shammai is documented as arguing on their teacher Shammai? I didn't notice any of the classic Meforshim discussing this peculiarity. There are at least 4 documented cases ...
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Why Shammai says that a man can only divorce his wife due to adultery?

Hillel and Shammai have different opinions: Hillel says you can divorce your wife for any reason. Shammai says you cannot divorce your wife for any reason. The only legitimate reason for divorce is ...
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Shammai - receive everyone with a pleasant countenance

in Pirkei Avot chapter 1, Shammai says "receive every person with a pleasant countenance". Why then did Shammai drive away the 3 gentiles (Shab.31a) who were interested in converting to Judaism? ...
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Mishna Brachos 1:3 , What should have Rabbi Tarfon done?

The Mishna in Meseches Brachos 1:3 recounts the Machlokes between Beis Shammai and Beis Hillel on how one should read the Shema: (Source provided by Sefaria.org) בֵּית שַׁמַּאי אוֹמְרִים, בָּעֶרֶב ...
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Why do Yekkes follow Beis Shammai?

Brachos 8:2 records a dispute between Beis Shammai and Beis Hillel whether one should wash before or after Kiddush. The Yekke minhag is to wash before Kiddush. Why do they follow Beis Shammai? (In ...
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when is the halacha like Bais Shammai and not Bais Hillel?

When is the halacha like Bais Shammai and not Bais Hillel? Are there overarching principles that apply? What are the cases? Is there a good reference that summarizes them?
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Was Rashbi a member of Beth Shammai or Beth Hillel?

Do you know if Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai was a follower of Hillel or Shammai? There are partial lists of followers of each of them here, but he's not on either of them. Was he a follower of one of them,...
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Was Rabbi Yehoshoua ben Hanania a member of Beth Shammai?

He was a student of Yochanan Ben Zakkai. According to Bava Batra 134a, Yochanan Ben Zakkai was a Talmid of Beth Hillel but also a Talmid of Beth Shammai. This is why I wonder which House follow Rabbi ...
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Was Yehoshua Ben Karcha a member of Beth Hillel or Beth Shammai?

Was Yehoshua Ben Karcha a member of Beth Hillel or Beth Shammai? I am talking about the Yehoshua Ben Karcha of Mishna Berachot 2:2.
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Was Rabbi Yossei a member of Beth Shammai?

Was Rabbi Yossei a member of Beth Shammai? I am talking about the Rabbi Yossei of Berakhot Perek 2 Mishna 3. He is opposed in this Mishna to Rabbi Yehuda, a member of Beth Hillel.
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What is the source for R' Meir and R'Elazar Beth Shammai membership?

What is the source for R' Meir and R' Elazar being members of Beth Shammai? Also, what is the source for the Beth Hillel membership of R' Yehuda? I heard from several persons (including one Rabbi) ...
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When ended Beth Shammai?

I am looking for a way to recognize members of the Beth Shammai and Beth Hillel when I learn the gemara and mishna. I need to know when the Beth Shammai ended (as well as the Beth Hillel) to find out ...
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Were Shmouel and Rav members of the Beth Hillel or the Beth Shammai?

Do we know which Academy Rav and Shmuel belonged to? Maybe they weren't members of any House.
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Why do Beit Shammai and Beit Hillel always argue?

Why is it that the Academies of Shammai and Hillel have contradictory opinions in most of the verses? It's almost as if one is waiting for the other to give a contradictory opinion. Take, for example,...
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About what was Beit Shammai more lenient than Beit Hillel?

I have the impression that in general, when Beit Hillel and Beit Shammai disagreed, the former was more lenient than the other. But it's not always the case; the g'mara on Rosh Hashana 14b talks ...
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Is the Story About Members of Beis Shammai Killing Members of Beis Hillel True?

The Yerushalmi Talmud at Shabbos 1:4 has a mysterious passage speaking of a time when Beis Shammai literally violently out-dueled Beis Hillel: Mishna: These are the laws they said in the attic of ...
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Who were members of Beth Shammai?

I know Rav Eliezer was one, but do we know other members of Beth Shammai?
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