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Saving one's rebbe's possessions

The Gemorah in Baba Metzia 33 states that, when seeing one's rebbe vs. one's father's possessions, the Rebbe takes precedence. The rebbe brings him to Olam HaBah and his father Olam haZeh. The items ...
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"Lashon yevani" in Rashi

In his commentary on Bava Metzia 21b, Rashi describes זוטו של מים as "לשון גודל ושירוע בלשון יווני"; i.e. a Greek word for size or expanse. But what is this Greek word, exactly, and how is ...
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Bava Metzia question - Shnayim Ochzim

If three people came into beit din holding a object and two of the people said they both found an object together, and the third person said “I found the object solely by by myself,” what would be ...
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Why is Yeush seemingly used in place of Hefker? (Bava Metzia)

In Elu Metziot, (Perek 2 of masechet Bava Metzia), It establishes that Maot mefuzarot is lo haveh yeush becuase of R' Yitzchak's baraisa of Mashmesh. My only problem is that the baraisa adds "sha'...
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הפה שאסר הוא הפה שהתיר

On Bava Metzia 3a, it talks about a concept that if a plaintiff claims Bob owes him 100 and Bob says no I don’t, nothing is done, but if Bob admits and says “I only only you 50, not 100,” (or if ...
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Can (or must) a nazir return a lost object found in a cemetery?

A Kohen may not perform the mitzvah of returning a lost object if it requires entering a cemetery. Bava Metzia 32a. What about a nazir? The nazir has two negative commandments (per sefer haChinuch) ...
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Torah as a bar metzra

The Gemara in Shabbos 88b, shows a famous dialogue between Moshe Rabbeinu and the melachim, when Moshe ascended to the Heavens, after Matan Torah. And Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said: When Moses ...
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Why doesn't the Gemera bring 3 more proofs for if צער בעלי חיים is Biblical or Rabbinical?

The Gemera in Bava Metzia 32a-33a has the famous dispute about if צער בעלי חיים is a Biblical or Rabbinic prohibition, and both sides brings proofs one way and the other. My question is, we don't find ...
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Acquiring assets by looking at it and saying "pick it up for me"

The Mishnah in Bava Metzia, perek 1:3 says: If one was riding on an animal and saw a found item, and said to another person who was walking beside him: Give it to me, if the pedestrian took it and ...
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Does "Not in Heaven" approach break of the chain of tradition (B"M 59b)?

In the famous argument about Tanuro Shel Akhnai (Bava Metzia.59b) R' Eliezer claims to faithfully represent the Heavenly tradition and he's supported by the Heaven. Neither R' Yehoshua, nor God admits ...
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Seforim Recommendations on Bava Metzia

Any recommendations on seforim that deals with (commentaries or insights) Bava Metzia (especially on Perek Eilu Metzios)? Preferably in English. Preferably seforim that explain the deeper meaning of ...
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Please translate Gemara - Aramaic word מקני

In בבא מציעא daf 33b, the very beginning of the Gemara on המפקיד. The Gemara says מקני ליה. The Artscroll English edition, vowelizes מקני as mak-nay. What are the precise possible translation(s) of ...
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Ritva on Bava Metzia 6b saying one is exempt from doing a mitzva there a multiple shitas

A few weeks ago on Halacha Headlines podcast on the topic of Techeles Rav Nisson Kaplan said that Rav Eliashiv had a teshuva that you dont need to wear it since there are multiple shitas and you don't ...
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Why R' Yehoshua didn't mention the majority rule?

The more I study the Sugyah of Tanuro Shel Achnai, the more I get confused: At the culmination of the argument "Rabbi Yehoshua (c. 100 CE) stood on his feet and said: It is written: “It is not in ...
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Bava Metzia: Dual meaning of "Metzia"

Has anyone ever commented on the fact that Bava Metzia, literally the "middle gate," can also mean the gate of "found things," and Bava Metzia is the one masechta that deals with ...
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Why does the man who guards the Red Heifer defile his clothes?

Bava Metzia 93a reads: "One who safeguards the red heifer renders his garments impure ... Rabba bar Ulla said: This is a decree, lest he move a limb of the heifer." But... how does it deter ...
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Chayecha Kodmin - Your own life comes first for countries

Although I am loath to ask a Covid 19 related question, one particular current debate caught my attention. Most readers are probably aware of the gemara in Bava Metzia 62a where we find the rule one ...
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Why can one not daven to change the gender of a fetus?

According to Bava Metzia 42a, one may daven for things in the past if it's something that nobody knows yet. Yet, when Berachos 60a asks how one may daven to change the gender of her fetus on the ...
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Can a person free himself from suffering?

Berachos 5b teaches: רַבִּי חִיָּיא בַּר אַבָּא חֲלַשׁ. עָל לְגַבֵּיהּ רַבִּי יוֹחָנָן אֲמַר לֵיהּ: חֲבִיבִין עָלֶיךָ יִסּוּרִין? אֲמַר לֵיהּ: לֹא הֵן וְלֹא שְׂכָרָן. אֲמַר לֵיהּ: הַב לִי יְדָךְ. ...
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Why "for 700 zuz"?

The ninth chapter of mishnayos Bava M'tzia had numerous cases in which someone is working someone else's field, whether as part of a sharecropping agreement or under lease. Most of them do not ...
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Can banning a Sage be made in G-d's honor?

We hold that (Avot 5,17): כָּל מַחֲלֹקֶת שֶׁהִיא לְשֵׁם שָׁמַיִם, סוֹפָהּ לְהִתְקַיֵּם... אֵיזוֹ הִיא מַחֲלֹקֶת שֶׁהִיא לְשֵׁם שָׁמַיִם, זוֹ מַחֲלֹקֶת הִלֵּל וְשַׁמַּאי. Every dispute that ...
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Why did R"G admit that he acted inHalachicly? [closed]

After the incident of Tanuro Shel Akhnai (B"M 59), G-d tried to threaten/punish R"G by wrecking his ship, probably realizing that he [somehow] sinned. His response was that he acted out of "שלא ירבו ...
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How Tanuro Shel Akhnai was different from the first Machlokes in the Mishnah?

THe first Mishna presents a Machlokes between R' Eliezer, R' Gamliel and "the rest" of the Chachamim (unclear). מֵאֵימָתַי קוֹרִין אֶת שְׁמַע בְּעַרְבִית. מִשָּׁעָה שֶׁהַכֹּהֲנִים ...
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What does it mean "נצחוני בני" after "לא בשמים היא" and "אחרי רבים להטות"?

There's something seemingly erratic in Heaven's behavior as reflected in the Gemmorah. If "לא בשמים היא" and "אחרי רבים להטות" were established Heavenly Halachot why would G-d smile and state "My ...
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Why a Machloket ended so badly and unpeacefully?

Back to Tanuro Shel Akhnai (BM 59b). A short recap: R' Eliezer and Chachamim are having a Machlokes over a minor matter in ritual impurity, clearly for the sake of Heaven. R' Gamliel, the Nassi, ...
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What argument came first - Tanuro Shel Akhnai or Maariv Chovah? [duplicate]

What argument happened first - Tanuro Shel Akhnai (B"M 59b) or Maariv Chovah or Reshut (Brochos 27b) In the former, R"Y stood against R"E (backed by R"G) and in the later the same story happened to ...
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Why didn't the Heavenly Voice testify for Elu Ve'Elu in Tanuro Shel Achnai argument?

There are a couple of iconic arguments in our Gemmorah and Tanuro Shel Achnai (BM 59)is surely one of them. Here's a short recap: R' Eliezer had an argument with some Chachamim, and R' Yehoshua was ...
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How exactly would Eliyahu resolve monetary disputes? (ie "מֻנָּח עַד שֶׁיָּבֹא אֵלִיָּהוּ")

In the beginning perakim of Bava Metzia, there are several mishnayos (see: 1:8, 2:8, 3:4, 3:5) that present cases when there is uncertainty as to who the owner of an item may be, and state: יְהֵא ...
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Was the bat kol right?

In Bava Metzia 59b, the rabbis are discussing a matter of halacha, and at some point a Voice from Heaven (bat kol) interjects an opinion. The rabbis reply that the Torah is out of God's hands (they ...
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Why was R’ Elazar certain that anyone sleeping during the day with wine was either a craftsman, a scholar, a night worker, or a thief?

Bava Metzia 83b records that R’ Elazar son of R’ Shimon approached a Roman officer and asked him how he is successful at catching crafty criminals (citing a passuk to that effect). The guard asked him ...
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Chronological order of stories involving Rabban Gamliel

There’s several stories (that I know of) which deal with Rabban Gamliel acting in a less-than-ideal way in regard to his contemporaries: Rosh HaShanah 25a-b, where Rabban Gamliel insisted that R’ ...
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In what way was the way of learning in Israel different from the Babylonian to cause R' Zeirah to fast?

The Gemmorah BM 85a: "ר' זירא כי סליק לארעא דישראל יתיב מאה תעניתא דלשתכח גמרא בבלאה מיניה כי היכי דלא נטרדיה" "When Rabbi Zeira ascended from Babylonia to Eretz Yisrael, he fasted ...
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Clarification on Mesivta's calculations of Shtut

The Mesivta on B"M 50 brings the following table summarizing different ways of calculations of Shtut: I couldn't understand, if 1 out of 6 makes 16.6%, how come 9 out of 60 make 8.3%. Please help ...
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Rashi contradiction in B.M. 95b-96a

The Gemarah in Bava Metziah 95b bring an argument of Amoraim between Abaye and Rava who base their respective opinions on the Tanaim Rav Yoshiya and Rav Yonasan. The Gemara tells how they hold of ...
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Different things falling through the air

Rava has a question: What is the halacha regarding something which you throw through a house, that goes in one window and out the other? Do we say that something that passes through the house's ...
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Can you get an animal high?

The gemarah (Bava Metziah 32b, based on Shemot 32:5) explains that a person is not allowed to give an animal undo pain, this is know as צער בעל חי. I would like to know if a person is allowed to give ...
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How can anyone hold that Tza’ar Ba’alei Chaim is d’Rabbanan?

The Gemara (Bava Metzi’a 32b-33a) discusses the prohibition of tza’ar ba’alei chaim, causing pain to animals, and whether it is from the Torah (d’Oraisa) or from the Rabbis (d’Rabbanan), concluding ...
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Whose life comes first? Apparently contradictory Rabbinical statements

There seem to be two contradictory statements of the Rabbis. One is: Sanhedrin 74a מי יימר דדמא דידך סומק טפי דילמא דמא דההוא גברא סומק טפי who knows whether your blood is redder than his ...
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Story between Rabbi Elazar ben Shimon and Rebbi [closed]

I'm now learning Bava metzia and I've come across a story between Rebbi and Rabbi Elazar when they were young. It says that they used to sit on the floor until the teachers made benches for them etc.. ...
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Why is this Mishnah repeated regarding backing out of sales?

The last stitch of the Mishnah in Demai 3:2 reads as follows: היה עומד ולוקח וראה טען אחר יפה ממנו, מתר להחזיר, מפני שלא משך. If one is ready to purchase something [but has not yet made an ...
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A gift on condition that I could take it back

The Gemara in Kiddushin 6b says that one may not marry a woman with money given on condition that she return it afterwards, as it's like chalipin which is invalid for marriage. Say that a man gives a ...
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Sarah nursing idolaters' children

The Gemara (BM 87b) relates that at the time that Avraham made a feast for Yitzchak'a birth, the nations mocked him and Sarah, saying that they adopted him, or that he was Avimelech's son with Sarah. ...
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Siyum of Bava Kama/Metzia/Basra or Sanhedrin/Makkos

I have been told that originally, Bava Kama, Bava Metzia and Bava Basra were one masechta called Maseches Nezikin and that Makkos was part of Maseches Sanhedrin. A siyum of a masechta of Gemora is ...
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What is the point in the mnemonic פמג"ש ממקגט"י ככסע"ז?

In Bava Metzia 21b, there is a mnemonic given which I find quite odd - פמג"ש ממקגט"י ככסע"ז . See http://www.sefaria.org/Bava_Metzia.21b.18?lang=he&layout=block&sidebarLang=all The way I ...
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Is coin a mana?

The gemara (Bava Metzia 47a) quotes a statement, and tries to figure out which opinions are (in)compatible with this statement: אמר רב ששת בריה דרב אידי כמאן כתבינן האידנא במנא דכשר למקניא ביה במנא ...
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Where does Rav Hai Gaon explain the meaning of the phrase צורבא מרבנן?

In the Steinsaltz Edition of Masechet Bava Metzia perek Eilu Metziot there is a side note that רב האי גאון explains the shoresh of צ-ר-ב as meaning a rock, stone (from Arabic). This root is more ...
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Should you pay a shadchan if the shidduch was successful after a break up?

(Aside from a segulah for shalom bais, it's general practice to pay a shadchan their fee upon a successful shidduch - it might even be halacha.) A shadchan sets up Moshe and Sarah. They go out 4-5 ...
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Explanation of Gemara's Interpretation of מצא

The Gemara Bava Kamma (113b) states that the term ומצאתה implies physical acquisition (rather than mere finding as the word would seem to imply): אמר רבינא {דברים כב-ג} ומצאתה דאתאי לידיה משמע The ...
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Bava Metzia 34a

Can you please help me on the first few lines of Bava Metzia 34a. Thank You. What is the exact translation: מי יימר דמגנבא ואם תימצי לומר דמגנבא מי יימר דמשתכח גנב ואי משתכח גנב מי יימר דמשלם דלמא ...
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Can you please help me with this rashi? [closed]

ולא אמרינן - כשזה תובע וזה אומר איני יודע אם לך אם לחברך אוקי ממונא בחזקת נתבע זה שלא נפסידנו ממונו ויהא מונח עד שיבא אליהו: http://www.sefaria.org/Rashi_on_Bava_Metzia.37a.25?lang=he&layout=...
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