I daven Nusach Ashkenaz saying “LeDovid HaShem Ori” at Shacharis and Maariv.

Q1 If I daven Mincha with a Minyan which says “LeDovid HaShem Ori” at Mincha, should I say it with them? (I assume yes, in order not to separate myself from the Tzibbur).

Q2 If I then daven Maariv in the same Minyan (which now does not say “LeDovid HaShem Ori”), am I obliged to say it? I realise that this is a case for CYLOR and will do iy”H.

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    +1. But I'd have asked Q2 the other way around: If I've already said it at maariv because I was with an Ashk'naz group, need I say it at mincha with that same group if I'm a nusach S'farad user? (The way you ask it seems to assuming mincha comes before maariv.)
    – msh210
    Commented Sep 1, 2011 at 21:53
  • @msh210, are there those who daven maariv before mincha? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. As to the question, would there ever be an issur on reciting tehillim (assuming one is in a place where one could learn Torah in the first place)? Also, for what it's worth, some nusach Sefard put L'Dovid at Shachris and Maariv.
    – yoel
    Commented Sep 1, 2011 at 22:02
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    @yoel, everyone says maariv before mincha. The first time nusach Ashk'naz says "L'david" is at maariv of the first of Elul.
    – msh210
    Commented Sep 1, 2011 at 22:09
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    But @msh210's point is, you could discuss replacing the l'David from Arvit, with Mincha on the next day. If you said it in Arvit, then again in Mincha the next day, this would have no affect on the next Arvit - which is a seperate day, and a separate set of tfillot.
    – AviD
    Commented Sep 2, 2011 at 12:13
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    @AviD. Got it. Thank you. My Rav said similarly to WAF's OR. Commented Sep 2, 2011 at 13:10

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I CMLOR many years ago on the predicament I found myself in davening mincha and ma'ariv in the same two places every day. The former was nusach Ashkenaz and the latter nusach S'farad. The result was that the tzibur around me was effectively saying it only once a day. He said tersely and with a shrug, "it's just a perek of T'hilim."

Although there is an interesting depth to this answer, the implication was that one has nothing to lose by saying Psalm 27 at any time, especially if there is a group reciting it where he is. On the other hand there may be something to lose - as you mentioned - by deviating from the practice of those around you.

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