1. When a fatherless child with a living mother that knows he was a firstborn but does not know whether his father did the Pidyon on him.

  2. When an orphan whose both parents died when he was a toddler, does not know whether he was a firstborn AND whether his father did Pidyon.

Whet's the ruling Halachah in both cases?

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  • The former I imagine is hamotzi mechaveiro, and he doesn’t have to pay; the latter I imagine is a sefeik sefeika and definitely doesn’t have to pay. – DonielF Oct 20 '18 at 19:10
  • @DonielF Isn't it Sofek DeOrayso? Hamotzi is like "it's a Kohen's problem" but isn't it the child's? – Al Berko Oct 20 '18 at 19:11
  • How is it different than “prove to me that I stole this object from you.” – DonielF Oct 20 '18 at 19:12
  • @DoubleAA Do you mean split it into two? What's not clear? – Al Berko Oct 21 '18 at 9:27

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