When the first day of sukkot is a Monday, the following is the standard Ashkenazi hoshanot schedule for the first six days (found in all siddurim/machzorim that I've seen and e.g. in Levush here):

  1. Lema'an amitach
  2. Even shetiyah
  3. E'eroch shu'i
  4. Om ani chomah
  5. E-l lemoshao't
  6. Om netzurah

I understand that 1. and 2. are said as early as possible, and 3. is said on the first available day of chol hamoed (consistent with every other year (see e.g. Levushei S'rad here)). I understand that on shabbat the relevant hoshana (6. om netzurah) is recited (consistent with every other year).

My question is about the relative postions of 4. and 5. Why does om ani chomah precede e-l lemosha'ot?

I understand that in such a year, adon hamoshia cannot be recited, as it is only ever recited on the sixth day of sukkot, which in this case is shabbat.

But why is its substitute om ani chomah (which is only ever customarily recited in a year of this type, notwithstanding Eliyah Rabbah here) recited before e-l lemosha’ot? Why not recite it afterwards, in the same way that every other year adon hamoshia is after e-l lemosha’ot?

[It's possible that there's some reason that would specifically link om ani chomah to the fourth day of sukkot and e-l lemosha'ot to the fifth day, but that seems somewhat unlikely when we consider a year where the first day of sukkot is a Tuesday, in which case common practice is to recite e-l lemosha'ot on the fourth day of sukkot and not recite om ani chomah at all.]

In summary, please explain why om ani chomah comes before e-l lemosha’ot.

  • I recall that one of the Hoshannot must be said specifically a week after Yom Kippur. It may be the one you mentioned, and that may affect the ordering, here. I'll see if I can locate my Art Scroll Hoshanot book at home. "Bug" me if you don't get an answer in the next few days.
    – DanF
    Oct 4, 2018 at 17:15
  • I believe you are referring to e’eroch shu’i which is always recited one week after Yom Kippur (unless it’s shabbat). I’m not sure that that’s going to help understand what’s going on here though...
    – Joel K
    Oct 4, 2018 at 17:41
  • Perhaps el lemoshaot has precedence over om ani choma because EL isn't recited on hoshana raba while OAC is. Some support perhaps from AhS he.wikisource.org/wiki/… that we specifically use hosanot that won't be recited later.
    – Double AA
    Sep 24, 2021 at 14:52
  • Not all Ashkenazi communities use the same hosha'not in the same order (see Goldschmidt). Rheinland communities historically said E'eroch Shu'i on the first day, unless Om Netzurah were recited instead Jan 21, 2022 at 17:42

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It's nothing too deep. E-l lemoshaot was instituted for the fifth day of Sukkot, as it is practical to be said then almost every year. Om ani Choma is an extra, said only out of necessity in a year like this one. It is therefore said on the fourth day, which for other technical reasons doesn't have any fixed nusach.

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    "consider a year where the first day of sukkot is a Tuesday, in which case common practice is to recite e-l lemosha'ot on the fourth day of sukkot"
    – Double AA
    Oct 4, 2018 at 21:16
  • When the first day is a Tuesday e-l lemosha'ot cannot be said on the fifth day as it is Shabbat. It is therefore brought forward a day (as mentioned, the fourth day doesn't have a fixed nusach).
    – user18037
    Oct 5, 2018 at 10:48
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    Why is it brought forward a day if it is instituted for the fifth day? Just say Om Ani Chomah on the fourth day that year too!
    – Double AA
    Oct 5, 2018 at 12:34
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    @tcdw why is it more critical? how do you know it is more critical?
    – Double AA
    Oct 7, 2018 at 2:19

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