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This question asks about how the elders were seated in the Lishkah. Seeing how poorly-sourced the OP’s dimensions were, I thought I’d ask it myself.

We’re told that the Lishkah was halfway in the Azarah (Yoma 25a), and that it was on the south side of the Azarah (Middos 5:4). But as far as I can tell, we’re not told more than that. I tried gathering its dimensions from the preceding Mishnayos in Middos, which place the Azarah at 187 Amos from east to west and 135 Amos from north to south (5:1-2), but those same Mishnayos seem to use up all of those Amos in the Azarah itself.

Are there any sources that explicitly tell us how big the Lishkas HaGazis (or the Lishkos in general) were, in the second Beis HaMikdash? I’d prefer a Gemara that I’m missing, but I’ll accept anything as late as the Rishonim, as long as it’s a precise number, not a guess based on a popular illustration or tile counting on an artist’s rendition.

  • +1 1. Sanhedrin was HALF the Lishkah only (Bartenurah:"שם היתה סנהדרי גדולה של ישראל יושבת. בצד החול שבה. לפי שלשכת הגזית היתה חציה בקודש וחציה בחול, ובחציה של קודש לא היה אפשר לסנהדרין לשבת, שאין ישיבה בעזרה אלא למלכי בית דוד בלבד וכו'.") – Al Berko Oct 1 '18 at 21:25
  • 2. The Mishnah says the Lishkat Hagazit was on the South side, but on the WIKI drawing it is on the North. – Al Berko Oct 1 '18 at 21:26
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    Wait is the vilna gaon a rishon – Dr. Shmuel Oct 3 '18 at 18:46
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This is the true answer (that brings us back to my puzzling):

This is the Tifferes Isroel's plan drawn to scale (on the bottom) found at the end of Mishnah in Midos:

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(If you look at the wall, the bricks are 5x10 Amas to scale).

From this plan we can learn that (according to him) the Lishka was about 25 Amas (12 meters) long, while the left part of it was in Kodesh (Ezras Isroel) and was populated only by Kohanim, and its right half - about 6 by 6 meters, entirely INSIDE THE WALL - was used by the Sanhedrin!

If this is not enough, this is the OFFICIAL version of THE Machon Hamikdash here in the Old City, you can't question them, come on!

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I don't know what to add, but (if it is drawn to scale) the whole Lishkah was less than the Mizbeah (which was 16x16 meters)!

Here's the original WIKI plan of the second BM:

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Some textual sources:

  1. the Mishnah Middos 5:

"מִן הַצָּפוֹן לַדָּרוֹם מֵאָה וּשְׁלֹשִׁים וְחָמֵשׁ, הַכֶּבֶשׁ וְהַמִּזְבֵּחַ שִׁשִּׁים וּשְׁתַּיִם." "שֵׁשׁ לְשָׁכוֹת הָיוּ בָעֲזָרָה...שֶׁבַּדָּרוֹם, לִשְׁכַּת הָעֵץ, לִשְׁכַּת הַגּוֹלָה, לִשְׁכַּת הַגָּזִית... לִשְׁכַּת הַגָּזִית, שָׁם הָיְתָה סַנְהֶדְרִי גְדוֹלָה שֶׁל יִשְׂרָאֵל יוֹשֶׁבֶת וְדָנָה אֶת הַכְּהֻנָּה וכו'"

  1. Gemmorah in Yomah 25a:

"אמר אביי שמע מינה לשכת הגזית חציה בקדש וחציה בחול ושמע מינה שני פתחים היו לה אחד פתוח בקדש ואחד פתוח בחול"

  1. Bartenurah on the Mishnah combines the two perfectly:

"שם היתה סנהדרי גדולה של ישראל יושבת. בצד החול שבה. לפי שלשכת הגזית היתה חציה בקודש וחציה בחול, ובחציה של קודש לא היה אפשר לסנהדרין לשבת, שאין ישיבה בעזרה אלא למלכי בית דוד בלבד וכו'."

  • Does he say that it was to scale? – DonielF Oct 3 '18 at 15:03
  • At least you can give me a thumb up! The scale on the bottom is his original (I asked a Rabbi). but maybe not. – Al Berko Oct 3 '18 at 15:04
  • +1 but when you refer to your puzzling (beginning) - and to your question (last line) - you seem to be referring to another question. Bear in mind not all people reading this will know what are you speaking about. Links would help. Alternatively you could remove these elements since each question/answer should be self-standing. Many people land on a specific question via Google and won't know about other related questions unless they are linked – mbloch Oct 3 '18 at 15:30
  • @mbloch He’s referring to the question I linked in the OP – DonielF Oct 3 '18 at 15:55
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    @AlBerko I’ll certainly give you credit for the Tiferes Yisrael, and to that end I gave you a +1. However, I did specifically ask for at latest Rishonim, and he’s an Acharon. I’m curious where he gets his numbers from - that might put you back early enough. – DonielF Oct 3 '18 at 15:57

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