It seems to be common knowledge that the Ramchal did not wear a beard (see here for instance). What sources are there, if any, that say the Ramchal, in fact, did not wear a beard?

  • See this blog post from On The Main Line.
    – ezra
    Commented Aug 8, 2018 at 14:06
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    Vote to reopen - The connection to "Judaism" is implicit if not explicit (e.g. the value the Ramchal placed on having a beard based on his interpretation of laws and customs related to having a beard).
    – Loewian
    Commented Aug 8, 2018 at 16:47
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    I also vote to reopen, basically the same type of question as this: judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/12419/…
    – Yishai
    Commented Aug 8, 2018 at 17:39
  • The Rama miPano similarly had no beard. Rabbi Shreya dobletski who niftar before 3 weeks and was a great mekubal too
    – kouty
    Commented Aug 8, 2018 at 18:09
  • @kouty I guess this painting of the Rama miFano with a full, trimmed beard, which appears in several sifrei kodesh, is fraudulent? See here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menahem_Azariah_da_Fano Commented Aug 9, 2018 at 12:48

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The Ramchal's beardless face is referenced in several letters among the Italian rabbinic communities of the 18th century, all of which are part of the general controversy that escalated after the Ramchal's assertion of learning through a maggid and his teachings of kabbalah, both activities that led some to suspect him of being a secret follower of Shabbetai Tzvi. The history of the anti-Sabbatean campaign that R. Moshe Hagiz and others waged against him is carefully related in Elisheva Carlebach's work The Pursuit of Heresy.

R. Yeshayahu Bassan, one of the Ramchal's teachers, was one of the participants in the campaign, who became increasingly frustrated with his student. In 1730, after the Ramchal asked that he write to Hagiz in support, Bassan replied with his own worries, such as the fact that he was still single and the "fact that you do not grow your beard" (cf. Letter ר׳ משה חיים לוצאטו ובני־דורו #39).

In another letter, R. Yosef Ergas wrote to R. Bassan about the issue of whether the Ramchal was a legitimate kabbalist. He wrote that he heard from others that while the Ramchal was learned in kabbalistic teachings, he did not consider him a Hasid [in the pre-Hassidic-Movement sense, meaning piousness], since:

ושאלתי אותם אם הוא נשוי ואם הוא נזהר בטבילה של ע״ש ושלא לספר זקנו כלל אפילו במספרים - ועל כולם השיבוני שאינו מקיימם כלל

I asked whether he was married and whether he was careful to immerse in the mikveh on erev Shabbat, and whether he was careful not to cut his beard even with scissors - and for each I was answered no. (Letter #21)

Carlebach found an amusing set of testimonies from the rabbanut in Venice in 1734, regarding students of the Ramchal who had claimed to have found "a mirror with a black frame, a knife with a black handle, and a candle of black wax" in his room, strange objects that some in the community feared was evidence of magical practices. After inquiring further, the rabbanut heard the Ramchal's explanation: they were the instruments of his shaving equipment (Carlebach 233).

  • So that means he was shaving with an actual knife? That is very different than just shaving.
    – user6591
    Commented Aug 8, 2018 at 21:54
  • There are parts allowed for shaving with knife
    – kouty
    Commented Aug 8, 2018 at 22:40
  • @kouty Parts sure. The implications are that he had no beard whatsoever.
    – user6591
    Commented Aug 8, 2018 at 23:50

The first source saying that Ramchal “did not let his beard grow” was his early teacher and later critic Rabbi Yosef Ergas. See here for a translation of the quote:


  • HOWEVER - This does not mean that the Ramchal didn't have a beard. Rather, it was asked if he trimmed it, and he said he did trim it
    – ezra
    Commented Aug 8, 2018 at 23:30

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