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Roughly how long does the average Shacharit at home without a minyan take, from the bracha over the talit gadol to the end? I am currently running 2 hours; while I am not the fastest Hebrew reader, it feels like that's too long. Using the Artscroll Interlinear Siddur, Nuasch Ashekenaz, if that makes any difference.

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    I suppose this question will be closed as opinion based, but still, I do it in an hour, and I am considered relatively slow in my experience (also it matters at what point do you put on talit gadol). – Kazi bácsi Jun 21 '18 at 14:47
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    Are you saying all of Korbanot? Akeidah? Ma Tovu? Parshat Haman? Zekhirot? There are lots of things in the Siddur which many many many people don't say every day, but you wouldn't know it just from learning how to pray from a book. – Double AA Jun 21 '18 at 15:03
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    I'm certainly not pressuring you to stop saying anything. I'm just pointing out that if you see a difference in time between you and others it could be because you are simply saying more things. If you feel overly burdened by your current time commitment, you should speak with your rabbi about what things should be dropped first. Generally speaking it's better to say fewer things (within reason) with proper Kavana than more things without. – Double AA Jun 21 '18 at 15:10
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    One tip if it feels too long. Advice I heard is to set a limit based on what is reasonable for you and in line with your community, say an hour, and work with your Rav to define priorities of what you should say. Halacha has some very defined priorities (from the laws of one who comes late to a minyan). As you become more fluent and “accelerate” you can add in more content. 2 hours feels indeed very long for many. – mbloch Jun 21 '18 at 15:20
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    @JoshK "many argue Korbanot is mandatory" but not if it ruins the rest of your davening! – Heshy Jun 21 '18 at 15:54
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How quickly do you count money? The davening should be said at the speed which one counts money.

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    R Chaim Soloveitchik of Brisk [allegedly] said he counted money quite quickly so he prayed quickly too. – Double AA Jun 21 '18 at 15:00
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    I definitely daven with kavanna much slower than I count money, @RibbisRabbiAndMore, is there a source for that guideline, basic though it may be? – Josh K Jun 21 '18 at 15:02
  • @double AA is that written down anywhere, out of curiosity? – Dr. Shmuel Jun 21 '18 at 15:03
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    I don't really understand that answer. How much money corresponds to a full shacharis davening? It would take longer to count a lot of money than to count less money. It takes longer to say a lot of words than to say fewer words. – Daniel Jun 21 '18 at 15:09
  • @Daniel I think the idea is a speed of one word per the time it takes to count one coin. So the total amounts should not matter – Joel K Jun 21 '18 at 15:32

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