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As a follow-up of this interesting question, I would like to take one step back. Most say Kaddish deRabanan after the morning Korbanot (see Emden), Ein kEloheinu and Bameh Madlikin. In contrast, Heidenheim seems to omit this kaddish at all three places. What are the earliest sources that mention this practice in a public prayer setting?

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As I noted in a comment there, Tur OC 270 mentions a kaddish after bameh madlikin and Tur OC 133 in the name of Rav Amram Gaon mentions a kaddish after ein kelokeinu. (I would be extremely surprised if there is an earlier source than Rav Amram Gaon).

It should be noted (as was pointed out by @DoubleAA) that in both of these places, Tur only mentions kaddish generically, but does not talk specifically about kaddish derabbanan.

  • Indeed, that was the reason why I asked this question. In early Italian printed machzorim I couldn't find reference either. – Kazi bácsi May 2 '18 at 15:25
  • Also look here, Emden omits Amar R' Eleazar (with KdR) after Ein kEloheinu, and goes on with Aleinu hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=22431&st=&pgnum=343 – Kazi bácsi May 2 '18 at 15:32
  • I'm not sure the line about Kaddish is part of the quote from R Amram. Note also the Maharshal quoted in the Bach there that the Kaddish after Ein Kelokeinu was only for those communities that put it after Alenu and in his community there was no Kaddish after Ein Kelokeinu since they said Kaddish later after Alenu. – Double AA May 2 '18 at 15:33

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