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According to the position in the gemara in Shabbos :צב that all of the leviim (includes cohanim) were 10 amos tall, how could Aaron or Moshe fit in the Ohel Moed (10 Amos tall as well, see parshas Teruma) standing straight and wearing tefillin and the mitznefes above their heads? Magnifying the question, Tosfos (and seemingly all of the rishonim other than the Rashbam in Bava Basra) holds that ten amos is just until his neck (and with his head he was 10 1/2 amos tall), and this was his height before having the shemen hamishcha, which according to many, we see from Dovid hamelech made people grow taller?

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    This is assuming we take the Midrash that Aharon and Moshe were ten amos tall literally. – ezra Feb 26 '18 at 0:20
  • There's a similar question about the luchos and the (other) Aron. They were exactly the same size, and yet one fit into the other. The answer chassidus brings is unsurprisingly very metaphysical – SAH Feb 26 '18 at 0:46
  • @Uber_Chacham I'm having trouble finding it but it might be related to this -- revach.net/avodah/olam-hatorah/… -- or to somethign about bli gvul within mugbal – SAH Feb 26 '18 at 6:39
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    Plus the ma'an, plus the Mateh – Uber_Chacham Feb 26 '18 at 6:56
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    Take a look at the daas zekenim shemos 26, 1 where he addresses the question . – user16291 Feb 26 '18 at 8:00
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The Aron did not take up any room as it says Yoma 21a and Megila 10b.

Likewise we find in Avos 5,5 עומדים צפופים ומשתחוים רווחים they stood in the Bais Hamikdash squashed and bowed down with space.

So too with Aharon and Moshe - who were 10 Amos tall not including the Mitznefes, which made them taller - didn't suddenly bang their heads because their presence took up less space relative to the Mishkan which made space when it was needed. The Alshich in Eicha (Lamentations) 4,12 explains (see hebrew books) that there are no boundaries of space in the Sanctuary because it is an area in this world that is shared with the upper Realms Where Hashem Dwells which is Ruchni (Metaphysical) and do not have space constraints. Hashem is infinite and still encapsulates within the Mishkan/Beis Hamikdash.

An alternative answer is The Malbim commentary on Maseches Shabbos 92a which says that Moshe and the cohanim/levied who carried the mizbeach were able to miraculously change height according to the task at hand but their height was that of a regular person. So Moshe for example was only 10 Amos high to set up the planks which were ten Amos but once he went into the mishkan to serve he was back to a regular height.

  • Do you have a source for your final paragraph or is it your own idea? – msh210 Feb 25 '18 at 19:36
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    Otzar hachochma – user15464 Feb 25 '18 at 21:26
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    Never mind, I think I found it (hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=6686&st=&pgnum=79). But this doesn't seem to say what you did, it says that Moshe was be'etzem a normal height, but could make himself taller al yedei nes upon demand.?. – Uber_Chacham Feb 25 '18 at 22:01
  • Are you saying the malbim or something else - according to the malbim, what does taking up less space have to do with anything - according to him they were normally 3 amos except for when they needed to be otherwise? – Uber_Chacham Feb 26 '18 at 14:25
  • You are right I have to split my answer into 2different answers which I have done – user15464 Mar 4 '18 at 11:04
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Practically speaking, they simply could have crouched or slouched a little bit.

(Note that if the entire Limmud is from the fact that Moshe was able to cover the top of the Mishkan, and that therefore he must have been as tall as it, there is no way that we can change the measurements, as some others have attempted to do.)

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Aharon and Moshe were not giants. These are metaphors and stories that have been taken literally. Many Rishonim have spoken about what a shame it is that people take aggadot literally when they are usually either speculation or meant to convey sodot. Very rarely are they literally true. In this case Aaron is obviously not 10 amot tall. Og's bed was 9 amot by the Torah's words, implying that was his height, now how did Moshe, who is taller than him, jump and only reach his ankle?

The blessed Rambam's thoughts on the matter:

The first class is, as far as I have seen, the largest in point of their numbers and of the numbers of their compositions; and it is of them that I have heard most. The members of this class adopt the words of the Sages literally, and give no kind of interpretation whatsoever. With them all impossibilities are necessary occurrences. This is owing to their being ignorant of science and far away from knowledge. They do not possess that perfection which would spur them on of their own accord, neither have they found any means for rousing their attention. They think that in all their emphatic and precise remarks the Sages only wished to convey the ideas which they themselves comprehend, and that they intended them to be taken in their literalness. And this, in spite of the fact that in their literal significance some of the words of the Sages would savour of absurdity. And so much so that were they manifested to the ordinary folk (leave alone the educated) in their literalness, they would reflect upon them with amazement and would exclaim: “How can there exist any one who would seriously think in this way and regard such statements as the correct view of things, much less approve of them.” This class of men are poor, and their folly deserves our pity. For in their own opinions they are honouring the Sages, whereas in reality they are all the time degrading them to the lowest depths—and this all unconsciously. As God lives, it is this class of thinkers that robs our religion of its beauties, darkens its brilliance, and makes the Law of God convey meanings quite contrary to those it was intended to convey...

-Rambam, Introduction to Mishnah Tractate Sanhedrin, chapter 10 (Perek Helek)

  • Whoever downvoted, feel free to speak up and point out why I'm incorrect. I can offer more thoughts from Rishonim and Geonim if Rambam isn't sufficient enough to convince you that a rational approach to the words of the Sages is kosher and in fact the opposite is not. – user1879026 Jan 24 at 8:24
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There is a source that states that Aharon was only 3 amos tall. This is based on the fact that he needed steps to light the Menorah, which was just over 18 tefachim high (not including the neros).

Of course, Moshe and Aharon weighing the same (מלמד ששקולים היו), this implies that Aharon was very wide at the girth.

Source: Sefer Beis Asher (al HaTorah), Parshas Pikudei, quoting a conversation between the Bnei Yisoschor and R' Hersh of Ziditchov, cited by Minhag Yisrael Torah. The vort is on the verse ויפרש את האוהל על המשכן, "and [Moshe] spread the Ohel [cover layer] on the Mishkan."

(Yes, this vort about Moshe's height and Aharon's girth is metaphorical - "רזין דאורייתא", to quote R' Hersh about the above mentioned conversation - and the Beis Asher explains it בדרך רמז, by way of allusion.)

  • I think the questioner only wants answers that fit with the Gemora in Shabbos that says they were 10 amos tall. If a Chassidish Rebbe argues with the Gemora he might have proof elsewhere, but it still doesn't explain the Gemora and maybe this should be a comment rather than an answer – yosefkorn Jan 24 at 13:54
  • @yosefkorn Does the gemara explicitly include Aharon in the 10 amah height? Because the rationale that he not be included is fairly strong, namely the steps in front of the Menorah. – Menachem Jan 24 at 23:43
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Units of measure can have different values in different settings (eg a dozen is 13 in a bakery and a Troy ounce is not the same as an ounce). So too, there is a long cubit and a short cubit.

I recall that the units of the mishkan were ,10 percent larger than regular units so Aaron could be 10 ammot and the mishkan could be 11.

Apparently, in Egypt they had a royal cubit, 1/6 larger.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_and_Talmudic_units_of_measurement

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    The machlokes between R' Meir and R' Yehuda which you are mentioning is about amos hekeilim (5 or 6 tefach amos), and befeirush not about amos habinyan (the mishkan/beis hamikdash itself) – Uber_Chacham Feb 26 '18 at 12:31
  • See my answer below for a short refutation of this. – רבות מחשבות Mar 18 '18 at 19:03
  • That's not a refutation. – Clint Eastwood Mar 18 '18 at 20:32

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