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What bracha rishona and bracha acharona should be said on date honey?

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    Did it pop up on Google when searching "date honey brachot"? What did you find lacking that you need to ask for further clarification? – Double AA Feb 21 '18 at 14:04
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OU's site (citing Rambam Berakhot 8:4) says that by default you should say shehakol, unless certain conditions are met:

Shehakol is recited over the honey of dates. Nevertheless, if one crushes dates manually, removes the pits and makes them into a dough-like substance, the bracha is Borei pri ho’eitz beforehand and the bracha that includes the three themes of bentching (i.e., al ho’eitz) after.

This ruling is based on Berakhot 38a:

.ואמר מר בר רב אשי האי דובשא דתמרי מברכין עלויה שהכל נהיה בדברו. מ"ט זיעה בעלמא הוא

Mar son of R. Ashi also said: Over honey of the date-palm we say, 'by whose word all things exist'. What is the reason? — Because it is merely moisture [of the tree]. Soncino translation

Based on this argument it can be said that the berakha achrona is borei nefashot. However, this view was later contested by בה"ג, as it is discussed in this article (see also Pesachim 24b on the other hand). In contrast, Rambam's ruling was confirmed in Orach Chayim 202:8.

  • If you can, please add to this answer what the bracha Achrona should be. The quote you have states the bracha achrona if you make the "dough". – DanF Feb 21 '18 at 18:24
  • @DanF Indeed, but first I'd like to understand the logic from בבלי – Kazi bácsi Feb 21 '18 at 20:10
  • @DanF If the bracha rishona is Shehakol, the bracha Achrona would be borei nefashos. AFAIK there wouldn't be any other possibilities. – Ploni Feb 21 '18 at 22:44
  • @DanF Check it now. I suppose it was important to understand the argument of the Gemarah. – Kazi bácsi Feb 22 '18 at 9:39

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