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I'm using Kit Kats as an example of any chocolate covered wafer. I'm not sure what is considered ikar - the main purpose of the food. Is it the wafer which requires mezonot or the chocolate covering which requires shehakol?

Or should one make a bracha on both? If so, I gather that generally, mezonot would come before shehakol. If so, how does one practically do this if the chocolate is on the outside? Does he have to scrape away some of the chocolate and eat the wafer first?

  • Moderators, esp. - note the newly added tag. If it's inappropriate, or there is a similar tag, inform me. – DanF Jan 11 '18 at 19:53
  • Is this helpful? berachot.org/halacha/26_Bracha_on_Snack_Bars.html – ezra Jan 11 '18 at 20:28
  • @ezra I know about that site, and I checked for something there. The page that you linked to isn't useful for answering this question. I am quite certain that most opinions say that regarding an ice cream sandwhich, one needs to make both brachot. I can't locate that info, but Kit Kats MIGHT have similar reasoning to that. – DanF Jan 11 '18 at 20:55
  • Depends on the quantity of wafer. If it is light and only used as a support to the rest, it is sheakol. If it is meaningful then it is mezonot. For instance, in Israel poskim write the bracha for Kit Kat is mezonot, on "Pesek zman" (similar to Kit Kat with more chocolate/less wafer) it is sheakol – mbloch Jan 13 '18 at 19:40
  • @mbloch The answer, below, seems comprehensive, and I think that the analogy to the chocolate covered raisins is correct. The wafer in the Kit Kat is quite thick, so if it weren't for it being dipped in chocolate, there's no question of the mezonot. I think in this situation, it may not be quite as much of an ikar / tafel in terms of quantity, but rather, it's "purpose". Is it a wafer or a candy / chocolate bar? I think that this answer would apply equally to peanut M & M's. – DanF Jan 14 '18 at 1:45
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This is actually a machlokes based on what is your preference as well as what is considered the ikar and tafel in the product as well as the majority.

This seems to be analogous to the case of Rav Moshe Feinstein discussing what bracha to make on chocolate covered raisins.

A Sweet Bracha What Bracha Does One Recite over Chocolate-Covered Raisins?

In Rav Moshe’s tshuvah, he addresses the following issue: When eating a food composed of items with different brachos, we must determine which food is the more important part, the ikar, and determines the bracha of the entire food. Rav Moshe deliberates whether the chocolate or the raisin is more important in order to determine whether the bracha on chocolate-covered raisins is Ha’eitz, like the raisin, or Shehakol, like the chocolate. Rav Moshe concludes that neither the chocolate nor the raisins can be considered of secondary importance (tafeil) to the other, and therefore chocolate-covered raisins require two brachos, Ha’eitz on the raisins and Shehakol on the chocolate.

Rav Moshe then discusses which of the two brachos to recite first. Usually, one should recite the bracha of Ha’eitz before reciting Shehakol. However, Rav Moshe points out that one must eat the chocolate before reaching the raisin; thus, the bracha on the chocolate will have to be first. Rav Moshe concludes that the best thing to do is to recite Ha’eitz on a regular raisin and then Shehakol on the chocolate. (When this option does not exist, he paskins that one should recite Shehakol on the chocolate and then Ha’eitz on the raisin.)

The way that I read this is to make the shehakol immediately followed by haeitz (in the case of a raisin) or mezonos (in the case of the Twix or Kit Kat bar) and then eat the two simultaneously.

There are other ways of handling the matter.

For example, OU Guide to Blessings cited at [Brachot 38 – Which blessing on a twix?] says that one can make the shehacol first deliberately excluding the wafer part and then making mezonos to include the wafer. After this eat the two together without a hefsek. This is similar to Rav Moshe's psak, but he does not appear to require that one explicitly excludes the wafer (or the raisin) from the shehakol.

If you eat a candy bar containing fruit, nuts, wafers, or other fillings because you specifically want to eat the filling, you should say only the appropriate brachah for the filling. If, however, the chocolate itself is just as important to you, first say Shehakol for the chocolate (bearing in mind that you do not intend to include the filling in this brachah), and then the appropriate brachah for the filling (Igrot Moshe, Orach Chaim 3:31).

This does not apply in the case of wafers, since the chocolate is always considered a subordinate ingredient in a candy bar with wafers, and therefore, only Mezonot need be said (Mishnah Berurah, Orach Chaim 168:27).

Bracha on chocolate with wafer says that it is really indeterminate.

Question: If a chocolate seems to consist mainly of wafer (eg kif-kef or Kit-Kat) should one say "Mezonot?" I assume that if there is doubt concerning whether there is more chocolate or wafer one should say "Shehakol"?

Answer: Though there is not universal agreement on this point, it seems the most common positions that if the majority is chocolate, it is "Shehakol" and if the majority is wafer it is "Mezonot". Some hold that since we eat the wafer for the chocolate and the wafer is just to hold it together, it is always "Shehakol" while others argue that the wafer also tastes good (sometimes) and therefore the rule that "Mezonot" is dominant even when it is not the majority should apply.

It appears that the advice given in the first location cited is to say

As far as I can tell – there is no consensus. You could take the easy route and not eat such chocolate bars/cakes ever again chas veshalom or weigh up the above positions and decide for yourself. Maybe even ask your Rabbi what he does!

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    Good find! As for asking my rabbi, I can pretty much anticipate his answer - "I don't know. Why don't you wash and make hamotzi and eat the KIt Kat as part of the se'udah?" – DanF Jan 12 '18 at 2:35
  • I could post this as a separate question if you prefer, but since a Shehakol can cover almost anything couldn't one just intend for it to cover both the chocolate and the wafer (or raisin), not specifically excluding it like the second source states? – Mike Jan 12 '18 at 3:20
  • @DanF ...And then your anticipated answer would be something like, "But I don't want to have to say the whole Birkas HaMazon for just a Kit Kat..." ;-) – ezra Jan 12 '18 at 3:30
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    @Mike However, the shehakol covers other matters only bediavad. The question on what one should do is lechatchilah – sabbahillel Jan 12 '18 at 6:33
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    @Danf sounds logical – sabbahillel Jan 14 '18 at 1:56

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