Is a gramman considered "singing", with regards to kol isha? On the one hand, it is more of a reading of a poem with intonation and a chorus of na na nas interspersed. On the other hand, it has the ring of a song.

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    Welcome to mi.yodeya, daniella! – ezra Nov 21 '17 at 4:25
  • If a chorus of men sing it, there's no problem of kol isha. Your question doesn't specify who is singing. – DanF Nov 21 '17 at 14:44
  • @DanF I think mentioning kol isha implies the subject of the singing. – Robert Columbia Nov 21 '17 at 18:44
  • @DanF - The OP mentions with regards to _kol isha_ and so it is assumed that she is talking about a woman singing a grammen. – ezra Nov 21 '17 at 21:04
  • Hi Daniella and welcome to Mi Yodeya. I've heard grommin many times. As far as I can tell, it is singing. It has a tune. So, it seems that it would fall under all the regulations of Kol Isha. Keep in mind that there are differing opinions that may make it permissible if there's a mixed men's women's group or even if two or more women are singing together. As you're not asking for a general source of opinions on Kol Isha, I haven't included a link for that. However, I still don't follow why you would think that grammin is not singing if it has a tune. They're not just speaking. – DanF Nov 22 '17 at 0:00

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