Based on this article it would seem that the transition from a unified people into two groups, Ashkenazim and Sephardim, began in the 9th century and proceeded over time. I would like to know if there is any demarcation as to when these groups were formally viewed as separate, so for example Rabbinic bans enacted by one group would not apply to the other. By way of analogy there are individuals who are seen as the last of a certain era (Tanaaim, Geonim, Rishonim etc.) these people can be viewed as demarcating between one epoch and another even though there was a transition which may have taken years. Does such a thing exist in terms of the split between Ashkenaz and Sephard?

  • What about Yemenites? Moroccans? Yekkes? Iraqis? Provencals? Chabadnikim? What are these two distinct groups of which you speak?
    – Double AA
    Sep 13 '17 at 21:19
  • Communal bans are effective over anyone considered a part of the community. They spread as populations move and cultural centers shift. || A given figure may have great influence and many communities listen to him, while other figures had more limited spheres of influence. || The modern distinction between two main groups is the result of local variation being wiped out over time such as during the upheaval following the first world war, and even more so after the second.
    – mevaqesh
    Sep 13 '17 at 21:23
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    [cont.] There used to be much more variation between communities in different countries and different countries, e.g. France, Germany, England, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt, Israel, Syria, and Iran. || The distinct Ashkenazi culture / tradition is first recorded in 10th century Rhineland.
    – mevaqesh
    Sep 13 '17 at 21:23
  • @DoubleAA I am asking when the classification of "Ashkenaz" and "Sephard" began, that is all. Sep 13 '17 at 21:31
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    @rikitikitembo But you do not provide evidence that such a classification even exists. If you mean as a commons linguistic convention, that seems off topic.
    – mevaqesh
    Sep 13 '17 at 21:32

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