Why (in some synagogues) does the shatz (leader) put on the talis during mincha of Shabas, before "Vaani s'filasi", rather than before the start of mincha?

As Gershon Gold notes in his answer, Shaare S'shuva says this is because when we say "Vaani s'filasi" is a time of ratzon. And as I note in a comment to that answer, Taame Haminhagim says that it has to do with the words vaani s'filasi: a talis is connected to t'fila. But neither of them answers why we wait and put on the talis during mincha rather than before: after all, we don't need a talis until (let's say) "Baruch sheamar", yet we don it at the start of shacharis.

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    I've never seen such a thing.
    – jake
    Jun 23, 2011 at 19:32
  • me neither........ Jun 23, 2011 at 19:53
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    By the Chasidishe Shuls that is what they do. Jun 23, 2011 at 20:14
  • A similar oddity (though I have no reason to think it's related): judaism.stackexchange.com/q/36812
    – msh210
    Mar 31, 2014 at 14:43
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    @msh210 Not everyone puts on the talis and tefillin at the start of shacharis - Minhag Ashkenaz is to put them on before Boruch She'omar Jun 12, 2017 at 8:21

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Shaarei Teshuva Orach Chaim Siman 292:1, the Baal Tefila puts on the Tallis by Va'ani Sefilosi because it is an Eis Ratzon.

  • And Taame Haminhagim says it's to do with the words "vaani s'filasi": because a talis is connected to t'fila. But neither the Shaa"S nor the Taame Haminhagim explains why to don the talis only right before it's 'needed'. I mean, we don't put on talis and t'filin right before "Baruch Sheamar" (since there are issues with saying the b'racha afterward). We put them on before shacharis. If we're wearing the talis for "Vaani s'filasi", why not put it on before mincha?
    – msh210
    Jun 23, 2011 at 20:58

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