I have seen a few examples in the Torah of people ripping their clothes as a sign of mourning. But the earliest example of someone being on the floor as a sign of prayer seems to be King David's example in Samuel II, 12:15.

I'm not sure if this example was used as the source for mourners to sit low or on the ground during Shiva. It would be a strange example, since David wasn't mourning for a dead child. As a matter of fact, after the child was dead, he no longer sat on the ground and he stopped his fast.

What, then, is the source or reason for sitting on the ground or a low stool?

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    What exactly are you looking for? A quote from the Talmud? A section in the Shulchan Aruch?
    – ezra
    Commented Aug 2, 2017 at 15:01
  • @ezra Anything that cites the origin and reason. Not just something that says, "this is what people do". A pasuk would be best.
    – DanF
    Commented Aug 2, 2017 at 15:04
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    See Eikhah 2:10
    – Double AA
    Commented Aug 2, 2017 at 15:05

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This is an excerpt from The Jewish Way in Death and Mourning by Rabbi Maurice Lamm, via Chabad.org:

Until modern times it was the custom to be seated on the earth itself, a procedure which demonstrated the departure from normalcy during the early stages of bereavement. Thus, expression was given to the sense of loneliness and depression one felt after one's relative was interred in the very earth on which he sat. The Bible tells us that when Job suffered a succession of disasters he was comforted by friends who sat with him "to the earth." It is, almost in a literal sense, a physical adjustment to one's emotional state, a lowering of the body to the level of one's feelings, a symbolic enactment of remorse and desolation.

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