it's me again, I am soon going to a travel after Tisha B'av and I am searching for a concise siddur so I can daven fastly. I found a really concise siddur called "ways of torah" made by a controversial Rabbi called Asher Meza. Is that siddur really kosher? The Rav claims he got inspiration from Rambam's and Saadiah gaon's siddur but is that true? If it's not kosher how can I get a nice concise siddur, I searched for Mesorat Moyshe, found it's download but the link is screwed. Pls answer thanks.

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    answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130813131710AABGDZ2 Probably closer to a nut than a rabbi
    – Double AA
    Jul 31, 2017 at 12:45
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  • Specifically for Tish'a B'Av, I assume that the term "daven fastly" means that you don't want to do all the Kinot. You don't need to do all of them. As a matter of fact, you don't need to do any of them. As far as the other sections of the morning prayers, they are pretty much the same as any weekday. For that matter, they are noticeably shorter than most weekdays.
    – DanF
    Jul 31, 2017 at 15:59
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    By the way, look what happens when you search "siddur ways of torah": google.com/… Look at the first result. I don't think you should be using this siddur at all, for any reason.
    – ezra
    Jul 31, 2017 at 16:04
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    bejewish.org/tr3.pdf @ezra interestingly enough, the messy-antics that approve of the sidur, are shown in their complete paganism at the site that they pretend has the sidur that they like. Jul 31, 2017 at 21:40

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I have seen that this "rav" Asher Meza has no good reputation and that the siddur above is used by the minim messianics.

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