Depending on the Tanna, Koheles and Shir HaShirim might not be considered a part of Tanach, but merely written from Shlomo HaMelech's wisdom. Therefore, unlike books of Tanach, one who touches these scrolls does not become tamei (see Eduyos 5:3, Yadayim 3:5, with Peirush HaMishnayos to Eduyos ibid.).

Does this mean that, according to those opinions, one may even carry those scrolls into a bathroom, or speak verses of them, unlike books of Tanach? Or are they still considered Torah and still cannot be brought into a bathroom, but because they were not composed with Ruach HaKodesh, they weren't able to be canonized into Tanach?

(Just to clarify, we pasken like Beis Hillel, and therefore these books are a part of Tanach halacha l'ma'aseh. Therefore, I have not tagged this question .)

  • Kohelet has God's name in it (eg. 1:13)
    – Double AA
    Jul 26, 2017 at 19:29
  • @DoubleAA Okay, then the Pesukim that don't have It.
    – DonielF
    Jul 26, 2017 at 19:31
  • What about Esther?
    – ezra
    Jul 26, 2017 at 20:49
  • @ezra What about it? L'maskana it was written with ruach hakodesh and is therefore a part of kesuvim.
    – DonielF
    Jul 26, 2017 at 20:51
  • @DonielF - From where do you learn out that Shir HaShirim and Koheles do not have the same kedusha as other books within the Tanach?
    – ezra
    Jul 26, 2017 at 20:52


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