This M.Y. answer discusses the various opinions of whether one can daven Mincha and follow it with Ma'ariv immediately afterwards when one began mincha after plag. (Note that this wasn't the subject of my question, itself, there.)

Part of the answer cites O.C. 233:1

הגה: וּלְדִידָן בִּמְדִינוֹת אֵלּוּ שֶׁנּוֹהֲגִין לְהִתְפַּלֵּל עַרְבִית מִפְּלַג הַמִּנְחָה, אֵין לוֹ לְהִתְפַּלֵּל מִנְחָה אַחַר כָּךְ; וּבְדִיעֲבַד אוֹ בִּשְׁעַת הַדַּחַק, יָצָא אִם מִתְפַּלֵּל מִנְחָה עַד הַלַּיְלָה, דְּהַיְנוּ צֵאת הַכּוֹכָבִים (בֵּית יוֹסֵף בְּשֵׁם אֹהֶל מוֹעֵד וְרַשְׁבָּ''א).

It says that in "emergency situations" if one davened Mincha after plag, and followed it immediately with Ma'ariv before tzet hokachavim, this is fine.

Would this scenario be considered "She'at Hadhcak"?

In my shul, we have trouble getting a minyan (sound all too familiar?) We prefer to daven Mincha before plag and follow it with Ma'ariv (an opinion expressed as "common practice" in O.C. paragraph mentioned). But often, we have 7 people, and the Gabbai calls or "what's-apps" (is that really a valid verb??) people to come to shul to help form the minyan. By the time we get the minyan, it is after plag, so we're following the other opinion that allows davening mincha after plag is over until night time.

Generally, in such cases, according to O.C., when one davens mincha after plag, he must wait until the stars emerge before davening Ma'ariv. However, those that came early will defect and leave the shul because the late-comers made them wait, unnecessarily.

In short, would not having a minyan for Ma'ariv qualify under the condition of She'at Hadchak, or would everyone be forced to wait until the stars emerge?

  • How is this different from "My Shul Davens both Mincha and Maariv between Plag and sunset. Should I daven both with them or one alone?"
    – Double AA
    Jul 14, 2017 at 19:47
  • @DoubleAA it is the same idea. Has that 2nd question been asked on MY?
    – DanF
    Jul 14, 2017 at 19:51
  • I'm not sure, but it's definitely been discussed in Poskim.
    – Double AA
    Jul 14, 2017 at 22:23

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Kitzur Shulchan Aruch (70:1) writes that the custom is to daven Ma'ariv immediately following Mincha, because it would be a burden to gather a Minyan again.

  • So does it qualify as Shaat HaDechak? Many people are accustomed to doing things Bedieved out of laziness all the time.
    – Double AA
    Jul 14, 2017 at 23:34
  • @DoubleAA He says "נוהגין", and doesn't write against it. So yes, it does qualify.
    – user9643
    Jul 14, 2017 at 23:42
  • I'm not convinced...
    – Double AA
    Jul 14, 2017 at 23:55
  • @DoubleAA It's right before shabbos so I can't look into it now, but Bl"N after shabbos I will. I'm pretty sure I've seen it more explicitly somewhere.
    – user9643
    Jul 14, 2017 at 23:59
  • @DoubleAA There's a nuance here that you see that I don't. I'm understanding "...because it would be a burden to gather a Minyan again" as a sufficient reason why a minyan can follow Ma'ariv after mincha after plag without waiting. It might not fit the definition of She'at Hadchak, per se, but it seems to fit the definition of torach tzibbur.
    – DanF
    Jul 16, 2017 at 16:02

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