Since Pesach is on the horizon I've gotten started learning some of the halachos of Pesach. In the leining for Pesach (from Bamidbar 28:23), we have a command:

תַּעֲשׂוּ, אֶת-אֵלֶּה.‏

Make an eilleh.

Since the verb תַּעֲשׂוּ is second-person plural, it is obviously referring to the congregation listening to the keriat haTorah. Naturally, in most good shuls, the congregation fulfills this mitzvah by singing the following word, כָּאֵלֶּה (kaeilleh), along with the ba'al keriah. I imagine that this is a very important mitzvah since we read about it all eight days of Pesach.

Yet I have seen that some people appear to look down on the practice of observing this mitzvah deoraita. Interestingly, the person in the thread linked above also appears to disapprove of the rabbinic institutions of singing along with "simcha liartzecha visason li'eyrecha", "bichag hamatzos bichag hasvauous...", and even "tov umaitiv hedoresh lanu" from the Yom Tov shmoneh esrei. *

I would have thought that the person who posted that thread was simply an am haaretz gamur midoraysa except for the fact that even here on Mi Yodeya some apparently frum Jews look down on people who want to fulfill this important mitzvah. Someone even published a book referring to people who do this as nudniks. How can people speak with such disdain about fulfilling what is obviously an important mitzvah

* Though for some reason he doesn't mention singing along with "Avraham yage-e-el" during Shabbos mincha. I thought this was part of the same rabbinic institution. Am I wrong about this?

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The problem is that these "scrupulous" Jews are actually insulting the entire congregation!

You see, substituting an "eilleh" with a "ka'eilleh" is actually a slap in the face. Let me explain.

When Hashem told Moshe about the upcoming plague of the death of the first born, he said it would be at "chatzos," exactly midnight. However, when Moshe informed Paroh, he told him that the plague would be at "ka'chatzos," roughly midnight, because Paroh and his astronomers wouldn't be able to calculate when exactly midnight was, they would miscalculate, and assume that their calculation was correct and Hashem had actually missed exactly midnight (Rashi to Shemos 11:4). Because the Egyptian astrologers were too incompetent to calculate exactly, Moshe had to change "chatzos" to "ka'chatzos."

When these individuals yell out "ka'eilleh," they are insinuating that the congregation is too dense to know an "eilleh" when they see one, and therefore they call out "like an eilleh" to make sure everyone doesn't jump to their own incorrect conclusions about whether an eilleh was made or not made.

Shame on them.

  • Very interesting! So what is the proper way to fulfill this mitzvah?
    – Daniel
    Mar 8, 2017 at 6:33
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    The mitzvah is fulfilled at kiddush after davening when the rabbi shouts EILEH very loudly before trailing off into a mumble for "mo'adei hashem mikroo-ai koydesh ..."
    – Yitzchak
    Mar 8, 2017 at 15:44
  • I had no recollection of this answer at all and it made me laugh out loud when I saw it just now (as did @Yitzchak 's comment)
    – Daniel
    Mar 6, 2019 at 22:18

Let's hop across to Sukkos, courtesy of the "Tes Vav / Tes Vav" wormhole; where we find the concept of "taaseh -- veLo min ha'asui." Make it anew, it can't be something already made.

Okay! Hold on to the that concept, and take that wormhole/chute/ladder back over to Pesach: you'll notice on the first day of Pesach most people haven't gotten into the rhythm yet (and/or they're half-asleep from the Seder) so they're not chiming in. From that moment on, it's already asui -- already made, as a solo part for the baal kriah, ergo from there on out the guiding rule is ta'aseh -- velo min ha'asui, i.e. the "ta'asu" no longer applies.

  • I don't know. In my shul there are plenty of people who have been waiting excitedly all year to fulfill this mitzvah.
    – Daniel
    Mar 6, 2019 at 22:16

Nothing, and the suggestion is offensive. My grandmother A"H was named Kayla.

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